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=====Question=====
Perspective on: What is the point of carrying on and depression
=====Perspective=====
the answer is a difficult one to phathom--there will be no direct support on an individual basis--the power is within each one to stand and enter the world and participate and change the world--the diemnsions will not and may not interfere--that will enslave you again
I understand where you are--I stood up and then waited--something must happen now--nothing did--2 yeras later--I had 2 children--no food--no money--no future--no way forward--so--in every breath I walked--taking care of the basics--in equality and oneness--and in the breath--I found the map--the way out for support--
I could have fallen and destroyed myself in depression or anger for no support coming from Heaven--I did not--so- my inner strength grew-- and made possible for what is now unfolding--this took 1-2 months from the moment I realise I had to do it for myself to get out of the ditch--I had to try every door so to speak to find a way--move myself--let go of my judgements and pre conceived ideas of the world--in this seven years since then--much happened-- I became a millionaire--and gave it up again--it is not the way--and thus Desteni was born
We are each on our own journey--and we have the power in us to stand in this world and make a diifrence --assist others to see what we see--to realise self practically
The dimensions are no diffirent to here--the same stuff--all will have to stand and participate--and in our participation--in every breath--we will make our mark and the reality will adjust--it won't happen in a moment--it happen as we will it--stand up or fall--it is still our will
scream or breathe--it is still our will
we are the answer--man is the answer--not dimensions--there u r screwed and subject to what happens on earth--we really srewed ourselves because we allowed ourselves to be enslaved without looking at the long term effect of our doings or not doings
So stand up--breath--fend for yourself and do it for all as one--it will be a battle--an inner battle--but--if done with resolve--each breath will support you--and the breath is all the support each require to support self
But I had to realise-- if it is to be--it is up to me--alone in my world--which sometimes touch other worlds--it is in the touching other worlds that we create the way we experience the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZW-YL3ViiI The Design of Giving Up
=====Question=====
Perspective on: Living in the Wilderness to stop
=====Question=====  Being aware of how my systems can be triggered in this world where humans live door to door, trillions of programs running in a square inch, I am considering myself going into the very wilderness and rest there in order to effectively live stopping.
I´ve realized in the past few weeks that I´m moving my body more and more to what our systems call "nature".
Hanging around on the balcony, outside of four walls, cycling to the lake ~ 2 miles from here etc..
My process kind of "speeds up" everytime I move my body out of "familiar" systems.
So, how about going into the wilderness to stop?
=====Perspective=====
do not accept or allow your environment currently to determine you and your process, because at the moment your starting point is in separation of 'wanting to go into the wilderness' - to 'only stop there' and assist and support you in your process 'there' = separation.
No matter the environment, you're still with you here - therefore, I'd suggest considering the reason why 'the wilderness', because in your mind exist a perception that it'll be 'easier' / 'simpler' 'there' - not realising that your process isn't determined according to 'where you are' - but 'who I am' 'where I am'.
And wanting to go to the wilderness because you perceive your process will be simpler/easier 'there' - is determining and defining you according to your environment - and not towards you, yourself.
Herein, I'd suggest observing the perception / idea that exist within your mind with regards to 'in the wilderness it'll be easier/simpler' - and what in your world/environment at the moment is causing this perception/idea - what in your world/environment are you judging that you believe is 'hindering' your process - not realising that it's not your environment that's hindering your process - but a perception/belief you have of your environment currently.
Jack
=====Another perspective=====
I have removed myself from society from time to time to focus on my consistency in self honesty in self expression--but inevitably one must return and live in this world to transcend this world in and as the breath in every moment.
==What happens if we give up?==
==What happens if we give up?==



Revision as of 23:40, 18 February 2012

Question

Perspective on: What is the point of carrying on and depression

Perspective

the answer is a difficult one to phathom--there will be no direct support on an individual basis--the power is within each one to stand and enter the world and participate and change the world--the diemnsions will not and may not interfere--that will enslave you again

I understand where you are--I stood up and then waited--something must happen now--nothing did--2 yeras later--I had 2 children--no food--no money--no future--no way forward--so--in every breath I walked--taking care of the basics--in equality and oneness--and in the breath--I found the map--the way out for support--

I could have fallen and destroyed myself in depression or anger for no support coming from Heaven--I did not--so- my inner strength grew-- and made possible for what is now unfolding--this took 1-2 months from the moment I realise I had to do it for myself to get out of the ditch--I had to try every door so to speak to find a way--move myself--let go of my judgements and pre conceived ideas of the world--in this seven years since then--much happened-- I became a millionaire--and gave it up again--it is not the way--and thus Desteni was born

We are each on our own journey--and we have the power in us to stand in this world and make a diifrence --assist others to see what we see--to realise self practically

The dimensions are no diffirent to here--the same stuff--all will have to stand and participate--and in our participation--in every breath--we will make our mark and the reality will adjust--it won't happen in a moment--it happen as we will it--stand up or fall--it is still our will

scream or breathe--it is still our will

we are the answer--man is the answer--not dimensions--there u r screwed and subject to what happens on earth--we really srewed ourselves because we allowed ourselves to be enslaved without looking at the long term effect of our doings or not doings

So stand up--breath--fend for yourself and do it for all as one--it will be a battle--an inner battle--but--if done with resolve--each breath will support you--and the breath is all the support each require to support self

But I had to realise-- if it is to be--it is up to me--alone in my world--which sometimes touch other worlds--it is in the touching other worlds that we create the way we experience the world


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZW-YL3ViiI The Design of Giving Up


Question

Perspective on: Living in the Wilderness to stop

=====Question===== Being aware of how my systems can be triggered in this world where humans live door to door, trillions of programs running in a square inch, I am considering myself going into the very wilderness and rest there in order to effectively live stopping.

I´ve realized in the past few weeks that I´m moving my body more and more to what our systems call "nature". Hanging around on the balcony, outside of four walls, cycling to the lake ~ 2 miles from here etc..

My process kind of "speeds up" everytime I move my body out of "familiar" systems.

So, how about going into the wilderness to stop?


Perspective

do not accept or allow your environment currently to determine you and your process, because at the moment your starting point is in separation of 'wanting to go into the wilderness' - to 'only stop there' and assist and support you in your process 'there' = separation.

No matter the environment, you're still with you here - therefore, I'd suggest considering the reason why 'the wilderness', because in your mind exist a perception that it'll be 'easier' / 'simpler' 'there' - not realising that your process isn't determined according to 'where you are' - but 'who I am' 'where I am'.

And wanting to go to the wilderness because you perceive your process will be simpler/easier 'there' - is determining and defining you according to your environment - and not towards you, yourself.

Herein, I'd suggest observing the perception / idea that exist within your mind with regards to 'in the wilderness it'll be easier/simpler' - and what in your world/environment at the moment is causing this perception/idea - what in your world/environment are you judging that you believe is 'hindering' your process - not realising that it's not your environment that's hindering your process - but a perception/belief you have of your environment currently.

Jack

Another perspective

I have removed myself from society from time to time to focus on my consistency in self honesty in self expression--but inevitably one must return and live in this world to transcend this world in and as the breath in every moment.


What happens if we give up?

Understand that if we do not make it on earth as all--no-one will make it and we start the cycle again--this time times 4--every cycle toughens up--this is our 11th cycle--the next will be more traumatic.

The ones that stand--will change the outcome--but to do it because it is a mess--is not self honest yet--to do it because it is for you as you as life--is self honest--to be the living self--that is to be self realized.

It is not about helping humanity--it is about self--and when you focus on self honesty--it will be easier as the breath

no-one will save mankind--each will do it for self--alone--the road to self in self honesty is.