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==Will feelings stop when I stop the Mind?==
'''Question'''
When the MCS is stopped completely, does one feel any kind of feelings anymore? From what I've understood there will be no 'positive feeling' afterwards, ever.
'''Perspective'''
No, no Feelings exist, then only Expression, that is the Actual Living-Self Here that emerge from the Darkness that Remain when All Stop and Self-Realize: I’m Still, Here.

Fascinating though, that People Fear not Feeling, as in emotions and feelings as mind-generated defined Energy-forms that is Reactive in Nature, consisting of memories, and determined by/through external-forces as one’s Environment and other Beings. 

Such Feelings and Emotions are not Real, it lasts for the time it lasts and then it’s gone and Self Remain. 

Feelings and Emotions as Energy cannot sustain its own existence but through participation.  Otherwise, it doesn’t exist,  and will only last as long as the Participant (which is you), participate. Thus, Energy as emotions and feelings in defined Form is not Real. 

What of Actual Real Feeling, with and as your Physical in the Form of Touch?

Do you Actually Really Physically Feel what you Touch? 

Are you Aware of the Physical Actual Real Experience of Touch as Physically Feeling what you Touch? 

This is the only Feeling that is Real, Feeling what you Touch, Physically. 

This is not Energy-based, but Actual. 

So, fascinating that people Fear not-Feeling, when the Feelings they Fear not Feeling aren’t Real and do not determine their existence in this World, meaning = you won’t die if you don’t feel feelings.  You won’t cease to exist if you don’t feel feelings,  you’ll only Realise what you’ve taken for-granted as the Physical that is Here and the fact that you haven’t actually ever experienced actual, real Feeling. 

So, don’t fear not Feeling,  you’ll only die if you stop Breathing.  lol.

Become Physical, meaning, stop participation in Energy as emotions and feelings of Mind. 

Focus on Breathing, Physical-Touch, being Aware with and as your Physical Here – then you’ll realize: 
You haven’t actually ever Breathed before, you haven’t actually ever Felt before and you haven’t actually ever really Lived before, but, limited yourself to an existence of Energy  that only fed off your Physical, tiring you to submission to the System, to enslavement in all-ways. 

Energy takes time and effort to generate within you through thoughts and memories that pre-occupy your entire existence, missing all that is Here with and as and in you. 

Stop Missing yourself that is Here in the moment of Breath as the Physical, Equal and One. 

Osho




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(Veno/Jack) --self forgiveness on sleep
: http://desteni.co.za/a/jack-self-forgiveness-sleeping
(Veno/Jack) --self forgiveness on sleep
: http://desteni.co.za/a/jack-self-forgiveness-sleeping


==Assistance while dreaming==
==Assistance while dreaming==

Revision as of 08:51, 17 December 2013

2007 - 2008

Sleeping and Dreaming, what is it?

In this section we give the Destonian perspective on sleeping and dreaming. We outline this perspective from a variety of angles: interdimensional beings, Bernard Poolman's interviews, Sunette, and other Destonians who have contributed to the content of this page.

On Sleeping

Understand the following: That you as a being as 'life essence' as who you are of life does not require sleep and does not sleep - an example of this is interdimensional beings. Anyone ever considered the question: Why human beings sleep but interdimensional beings do not sleep...?

Sleeping is also pre-programmed within and as the mind consciousness system within human beings - when you 'sleep' this is when the mind consciousness system 'regenerates' and'rejuvenates' itself in preparation for 'another day' when you'll be 'actively participating' as a mind consciousness system within this world as the unified consciousness field. Thus, the mind consciousness system will 'while you're asleep' 'dig into' and 'submerge' itself into the subconscious and unconscious mind to allocate memory banks, thoughts, past experiences etc. to merge / rise / install within your conscious mind, so when you participate within your daily 'life experience' you'll have a 'new fresh set of thoughts / thoughts patterns' to pre-occupy you with.

The 'sleep stages' are actually where you submerge you within yourself, while your mind submerges you and takes you 'with it' from the conscious mind, into the subconscious mind straight through to the unconscious mind (your deep sleep), see the mind takes you with it, because it cannot exist without you, and the mind can only take you on this journey through the mind stages to rejuvenate and regenerate when you're 'asleep' so you don't actually know this is really happening. Thus,'sleeping' is an automated constructed system within and as your mind consciousness system to 'keep it going' - to 'keep you going' as a mind consciousness system. This is where dreaming takes place. Dreams were the diversion for human beings to not actually see/experience/understand what really happens when they dream in any way whatsoever. You 'think' you're dreaming but your mind system is actually taking you on its journey through the mind stages into the unconscious mind, to 'dig' and 'search' for thought patterns / behaviors / system alignments from the 'global unconscious as the unified consciousness field', to install [these] within you, to 'implant' within you, to 'pre-occupy' you through another day, and so this continues every evening you sleep - this is the procedure that takes place. Then when you wake up all 'groggy' it's you together with the mind as the mind, rising up from within the unconscious to the subconscious to the conscious, when you're 'awake' you're fully / completely within and as the conscious mind. The reason why the world says 8 - 9 hours sleep is because the entire procedure takes 8 - 9 hours for full completion: installation and implantation of unconscious mind manifestations to be infused within and as your own mind consciousness system.

On Dreaming

Though, what we have done with regards to dreams is the following, instead of you going within and as your own mind journey through the mind stages - we've compressed all three mind stages to one singular point within you as you where we 'brought together everything and all of you to one singular point within the mind as all three mind stages'. Thus, when you sleep, you don't submerge anymore, but is placed within this one singular point, where dreams are inserted which assist and support you within the current point placement of yourself within your process - thus - dreams now assist and support you with regards to where you are in your process currently - the 'point' of you within yourself.

That is why we suggest only 4 - 6 hours sleep, this is all you require, because if you sleep longer than this, you'll move beyond this point placement of you within you and submerge with your mind into the conscious, subconscious and unconscious mind. Thus you giving your mind the opportunity to regenerate and rejuvenate itself by installing and implanting manifestation within you from other human beings in this world through the unconscious mind unified field connection / interconnection - and have experiences / reactions within you - that's not even of you - but believe to be you, then the moment you believe it to be you - you make it your own - and thus so ingrain the reactions/behaviors within and as your own mind consciousness system. 4 - 6 Hours sleep is sufficient - it's all your human physical body requires because then it's not sleep per say - but resting your human physical body for a moment. It will take some diligence to 're-set' yourself to only sleep 4 - 6 hours a day - though each have the will to do this.

Will do the self forgiveness list as well - though - here for the moment diligence and discipline to only sleep for 4 - 6 hours maximum.

Dreams as Reality? Discover yourself in Dreams

Understand that the Dream-Reality is no different to the Physical-Reality, because in both Realities a Being's experience is exactly the same, because the Being exist as the Mind, and experience themselves as and through the Mind within both the Dream-Reality and the Physical-Reality. In essence what I’m stating here is that Beings are not actually really existing in and as the Physical-Reality, we’re existing in the Mind, separate from the Physical. In essence, [we are]always existing within a ‘Dream-World’ of sorts as the Illusions of and as our own Mind. Thus, the Dream-World, in terms of the experience of the Mind as you is the ‘real-Reality’, as the Mind’s own reality of itself as our ‘real-Reality’ –in reality – the Physical do not actually exist for us, all we’re always experiencing is ourselves as and of the Mind [which is] not actually the Physical Here. I, Chief – have taken responsibility for and as the Point of Dreams – finding practical ways/methods with which to utilize Dreams,in assisting and supporting the Being in their Process of Self-Realization as the Physical equal and one Here. (...) Dreams are now directly related to Self and Self alone, and will reflect suppression/secrets/denials/desires etc. as parts of Self that Self has separated Self from to, through Dreams see the Truth of Self directly to from/through Dreams assist and support Self within the Process of Self-Corrective-Action within Self-honest Self-Forgiveness. And stop, stand-up and change/transform Self in every moment of breath as you participate in this world in Walking the Principle of Equality and Oneness as Life.

In this: ‘short-circuiting’ one’s Process so that you don’t have to go through more events/ experiences within your world as manifested-Consequence to be able to see the Truth of you and then only change/Stand-up – which could take weeks, months even years to ‘play-out’ – dependent on the severity of the self-definition as a particular point of Mind.(...) A suggestion, also – is that one do not ‘define Self according to/as dreams’ – otherwise, one will accept and allow self-limitation within that definition. Simply realize/understand that dreams simply reflect/reveal parts of Self that Self has accepted and allowed Self to separate Self from. Thus, it is to investigate the Dream-Self-Revelation self-honestly; change/transform Self in Living-application and Unconditionally let the point as the Dream go. For even within holding onto a dream within Self, hold Self to that dream, enslaved to that dream – then Self cannot move Here – because Self is stuck in/as a Dream-Reality past-memory-Moment. (Transcribed from Bernard Poolman's interview "Dreams as Reality? Discover yourself in Dreams")


What are dreams?

Dream-states, previously experienced, are 'mind states'.

See - the mind does not rest/sleep - this 'mind state' is an alternate mind manifested illusion, within which the mind 'plays' with concept/ideas - trying/attempting to understand itself, without you being an 'active' 'conscious' participant while you are 'awake'. Where the mind directs itself while you 'sleep' though you'll experience yourself in/as the dream - because the mind is of you.

When you are 'awake' - you 'use' the mind - the 'mind' needing you as you 'need' the mind as the mind have become you.

Yet - while you're asleep - your mind will 'submerge' into an alternate mind manifested illusion and try/attempt to understand/comprehend certain subconscious/unconscious experiences you've had during the day which you yourself were not 'conscious' of - but your mind was.

Have a look - previously dreams were confusing, made no sense, leaving you experiencing yourself being 'befuddled' in some way - the dreams indicative of the mind's experience within this reality.

Dreams previously reflected the 'true state' of the mind's 'relationship' within the being who 'powers' its existence.

Though - at the moment - 'dreams' have become particular in nature - they have been directed/transformed to support/assist human beings within their processes - and not the other way around where the mind is trying to figure itself out/understand itself.

So - if you have any interesting dreams - let us know - write them down the morning when you 'remember' them, write also your own observations of the dreams you have had and post them - then we'll be able to assist/support with perspective if necessary.

Quote: Ive always thought they were times when we travel out of our bodies and do other stuff in the astral.


'Out of Body Travel' - was also but an illusionary alternate existence manifested within and as the mind consciousness system of human beings - a 'different' mind state - whether in this world of the mind reality or in the dream world of the mind reality as but another 'shift' of the mind to an alternate mind manifested illusionary existence. No humans on earth were allowed in the dimensions - Jack did do a video on this - thus confirming that Astral Travel or Astral Projection is but al alternate mind state illusion, created within and as the mind consciousness system to have human beings 'believe' that they're in the dimensions - when they're in fact still within and as their own mind consciousness system.


Quote: Ive had dreams that were so real! Once I dreamed of being on a stage singing and when I woke up.......I swear......my physical body felt as though I had just been singing my heart out. I could feel it in my throat.


See - the mind consciousness system exist within and as your entire human physical body - all of your human physical body. You experience yourself in a mind state when you're awake and when you're asleep - all that 'change' is the 'reality'. In the one reality - you're awake, an 'active participant' though when you're asleep - the mind directs 'itself' without you being an 'active participant', though you will experience what the mind experience as the mind is of you - as I have mentioned.

Have you seen the Matrix - where Neo was 'plugged into' the Jump Program and he fell off the building onto the ground - when he 'returned', being 'plugged out' - Neo feels his mouth and there's blood and he turns to Morpheus and he asks: “I thought it wasn't real?” and Morpheus replies: “The mind makes it real” and 'The body cannot live without the mind.' In terms of the words “the body cannot live without the mind' - is a statement of when your mind consciousness system and body is as one - if your mind suddenly 'shuts down' - the body will 'die' - because your body has become of the mind consciousness system - that's why silencing the mind is a process - so that you may exist within and as oneness of the human physical body as life. Have you seen the movie 'Shine'? This is what happens when the mind is silenced in one moment without you being prepared and understanding what's happening - and therefore - also the body not being prepared as you - therefore - silencing the mind is a process - done with awareness - where life will be born from the physical as you as one with your human physical body - no mind consciousness system of separation existing within you.

This is (the above explained regarding Neo/Morpheus) the exact same situation with regards to the 'realism' of dreams that you experience within and as your human physical body - within both 'realities' your mind is 'active' - in the one, your 'plugged into' the mind, when you're 'awake' - in the other you're not 'plugged' in - though the mind still exist within and as your human physical body as you - and thus will experience what the mind experiences.

Thus - when you dream - you must become as 'Neo' in the matrix - 'awake' within both realities - whether you're 'plugged in' or not - realising that you must direct you with awareness when you dream - and that you're actually able to direct your dreams - in other words - direct the mind instead of being the slave to it where it directs you when you're asleep.

Quote: And also wondering about beings in our dreams......as a pre-teen I had a constant dream of who I called ,"the white lady"........she was all white......kinda scary and just watched me. I would dream of her outside on the sidewalk under the streetlight watching my room.......Id look out the window in my dream and there she was! Id dream she was next to my bed and wake up frozen ...to scared to roll over in case she was there. In the back yard..........just watching. Very strange!


She tried/attempted to communicate with you - she was a demon - lost - nowhere to go with no answers and didn't have the ability to communicate with you as the White Light controlled all interdimensional communication. She didn't know how to 'initiate' communication - she 'hoped' you'd be able to 'open' a channel of communication - but because of the fear that existed within you - she wasn't able to.

She died in 1492 - and was ever since then 'searching' for the 'soul' of her daughter. So - the reason why she was watching you was that she was observing all of you - all that you were previously - going through all your lives to see if you might be her daughter that returned to earth because she couldn't find her daughter anywhere where she was experiencing herself. And while she was observing you - she was observing everyone else in your world - for the possibility that one of the people in your world might be her daughter.

See - demons during this period were 'lost' within a single mind thought construct - hers was the loss of her daughter and the search of her daughter. And this is all that existed within and as her - so she was 'lost' as a demon in search for her daughter since 1492. She couldn't remember what happened or her life - all she 'knew' was that she has a daughter that she lost and she must find her daughter.

This was the situation within the dimensions before the dimensions was 'cleaned up' and we shut down the demon dimension - to have all beings realise themselves of oneness and equality.

Enjoy


Working with your Dreams Support Video

http://youtu.be/oPwPNoUEeGE



Perspective

Sleeping is also pre-programmed within and as the mind consciousness system within human beings. When you sleep, this is when the mind consciousness system regenerates and rejuvenates itself in preparation for another day when you'll be actively participating as a mind consciousness system within this world as the unified consciousness field.

Thus, the mind consciousness system will, while you're asleep, dig into'and submerge'itself into the subconscious and unconscious mind to allocate memory banks, thoughts, past experiences etc. - to merge / rise / install within your conscious mind, so when you participate within your daily life experience you'll have a new fresh set of thoughts / thoughts patterns to pre-occupy you with.



Thus, the sleep stages are actually where you submerge you within yourself, while your mind submerges you and takes you with it from the conscious mind, into the subconscious mind straight through to the unconscious mind (your deep sleep).

See, the mind takes you with it, because it cannot exist without you. And, the mind can only take you on this journey through the mind stages to rejuvenate and regenerate when you're asleep so you don't actually know this is really happening.
Therefore, sleeping is an automated constructed system within and as your mind consciousness system to keep it going, to keep you going as a mind consciousness system.

Thus, this is where dreaming takes place. Dreams were the diversion for human beings to not actually see/experience/understand what really happens when they dream in any way whatsoever. You think you're dreaming, but your mind system is actually taking you on its journey through the mind stages into the unconscious mind to dig and search for thought patterns / behaviours / system alignments from the global unconscious as the unified consciousness field, to install within you, to implant within you, to pre-occupy you through another day. And so, this continues every evening you sleep. This is the procedure that takes place.


Then, when you wake up all groggy it's you together with the mind as the mind, rising up from within the unconscious to the subconscious to the conscious, when you're awake, you're fully / completely within and as the conscious mind.
The reason why the world says 8 - 9 hours sleep is because the entire procedure takes 8 - 9 hours for full completion; installation and implantation of unconscious mind manifestations to be infused within and as your own mind consciousness system.



Though, what we have done with regards to dreams is the following; instead of you going within and as your own mind journey through the mind stages - we've compressed all three mind stages to one singular point within you as you, where we brought together everything and all of you to one singular point within the mind as all three mind stages. Thus, when you sleep, you don't submerge anymore, but is placed within this one singular point where dreams are inserted, which assist and support you within the current point placement of yourself within your process. Thus, dreams now assist and support you with regards to where you are in your process currently; the point of you within yourself.


That's why we suggest only 4 - 6 hours of sleep, this is all you require, because if you sleep longer than this, you'll move beyond this point placement of you within you and submerge with your mind into the conscious, subconscious and unconscious mind, Thus, you giving your mind the opportunity to regenerate and rejuvenate itself by installing and implanting manifestations within you from other human beings in this world through the unconscious mind unified field connection / interconnection, and have experiences / reactions within you - that's not even of you - but believe to be you, then the moment you believe it to be you, you make it your own. And thus, so ingrain the reactions/behaviours within and as your own mind consciousness system.



4 - 6 hours of sleep is sufficient, it's all your human physical body requires, because then it's not sleep per say, but resting your human physical body for a moment. It will take some diligence to re-set yourself to only sleep 4 - 6 hours a day, though each have the will to do this.

Will do the self forgiveness list as well. Though, here for the moment, diligence and discipline to only sleep for 4 - 6 hours maximum.


(Veno/Jack) --self forgiveness on sleep
: http://desteni.co.za/a/jack-self-forgiveness-sleeping

Assistance while dreaming

Question

So yesterday (Sunday) I watched a lot of videos because it was weekend and this morning I woke up with the impression that I had only been dreaming and experience systems in a specific kind of way, as if they were being solved in my dreams. Although I can't remember anything that I dreamt (except for one situation in a room with someone and I only remember a flash) I woke up with this clear understanding that I somehow lived/experienced/solved them in my dreams...

Perspective

Accept this experience as you as one - you experienced yourself with the interdimensional being within you as you as the Tree of Life assisting and supporting you - much direction is given within human beings while they sleep - so - remain here as the breath, within and as self honesty and self forgiveness and continue enjoying you!

(Alice B)


Are dreams dependent on the strength of the Earth's magnetic field?

No - dreams are not dependent on the strength of the Earth's magnetic field.

Dreams are specific - we place dreams specifically (well, your dimensional support) for self support and self assistance within and throughout your process. Thus - lots of dreams means lots of self direction required - also in stopping the mind.

So - if you have dreams that leave you pondering or wandering in the mind trying/attempting to understand them - stop - write the dream down and post it - we'll give you perspective so you may give yourself effective direction.


(Veno)


Practical Dream Assessment

In this section we introduce a number of dreams on a variety of topics from people who are in process and have participate in the forums. The structure of this section alternates between the description of dream and a perspective given as support by one of the members of the group, or by the dreamer him or herself.


Personal experience and Self-Forgiveness on a Dream

I dreamed that my brother hit a disabled woman with his car and that he tried to escape his responsibility. I told him that it was unacceptable and that he had to face the consequences. A commotion broke out and people started to fight in the streets completely possessed. My mother jumped into a car and started fighting with a woman, pulling her hair and what not. I pulled them apart and told them that they were demon possessed. I looked into my mothers eyes and I saw her changing between a demon form and her human form and I told her to breathe. I started laughing and became possessed myself making gruesome faces. I felt strangely enough free within this demon expression, but also quite frightened and out of control. I snapped out and took a deep breath in and out, and I said to myself "I have to focus on myself, I can't save my mother". Then I was chased by demons as they recognized me as not being possessed and I tried to hide in abandoned houses.


Forgiveness

So, what the dream told me is most prominently:

  • 1. a fear of becoming possessed
  • 2. a fear that my family members will become possessed
  • 3. a fear of being exposed to and harmed by possessed beings
  • 4. a desire to save my family
  • 5. a desire to become possessed

Self Forgiveness

1. I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear becoming demon possessed I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to see/realize that I can't be demon possessed if I don't allow it I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear facing myself as a demon I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to believe that anything can possess me if I stick to breathing I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear losing myself I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to believe that I as physical here-ness can be lost I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear my anger I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to lose myself in anger I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to believe that I deal with my anger if I suppress it I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to suppress my anger instead of forgiving myself I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to see/realize that fear is a form of demon possession in itself I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to become possessed with fear of demons I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear myself


2. I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear that my brother will become demon possessed

I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear that my mother will become demon possessed I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear that my father will become demon possessed I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear losing my family members within them becoming demon possessed I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear standing alone I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to assume that my brother, mother and father have no self-control I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear facing my mother as a demon I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear facing my father as a demon I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear facing my brother as a demon I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear my brothers anger I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear my fathers anger I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear my mothers anger I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear rinding the car when my brother is driving I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to see/realize that my fear is related to memories of my family members road rages and thus lack physical substance


3. I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear getting in the way of a being possessed with anger/hate/rage

I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear the anger of others I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to be in a constant alert mode in fear of being hurt by possessed beings in public I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear my neighbor and thus sustaining and maintaining the current system of fear and self-interest


4. I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to want to save my family

I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to believe that I can save my family I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear assisting my family within clear and practical common sense because of fear of being ridiculed I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear being ridiculed by my family I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to ridicule myself I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to believe that my family is special and worth saving within wanting to save them


5. I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to desire being demon possessed

I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to be tempted by the demonic I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to believe that I would be free if I became a demon I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to want to abdicate my responsibility within becoming demon possessed


General dream related questions

Question

Just a question because with most of my dreams I am aware that I am dreaming and I find that that even sometimes the other people who are in my dreams I tell them that it is just a dream and they smile. Like they are glad that I know it is a dream.

Now off topic but also a dream question. Within most of my dreams there are people from my childhood or people who I have been in school with whom I was friends with but don't see anymore. Lots of times they take on an assisting role in the dream trying to bring me to further awareness. For example, if I fall back and have the feeling of giving up on my process or like it is too hard often there is a friend of mine who has died 2 years ago comes to me and basically he tells me that I need to restart and that I should not give up. Often he will speak of things that I need to walk through or give me hints about what I should be doing in my process. Sometimes it feels like he is another being communicating with me and assisting me thru my dreams. Does anyone else have something similar happening in there dreams?

Perspective

'Whatever' you dream and 'however' you dream-it = it is always a Play-Out of 'who you are' as Unconscious Mind Patterns - so observe your dreams and learn from them what you can.

A reminder that assists me when looking at my dreams is that: this dream is ME, it all happened inside MY HEAD - thus every person, every object, every environment that was in the dream, every word, sentence, discussion = was all me, thus reveals something about me, says something about me.

So 'other people in your dream' are always you, you are always have dreams with yourself disguised as 'other people'.

And this Principle = you can also apply in the "Real World" - meaning - you see people, objects, animals and you distinguish them as 'others' as 'separate' from you - but this Reality is ONE just as your 'Dream Reality' is One = and every point existent within you is actually You. So that makes both 'Reality' and your 'Dream Reality' a 'Transcendence Playground'.

So look at a dream as if it were real (the shit happening there is real, the crazy stuff that happens IS YOU) and look at reality as if it were a dream (everything and everyone you see 'is you' - you are responsible for this whole reality, it is your 'own creation', just like 'a dream', which is also 'your creation reflecting you back to you').


Self-Forgiveness on a dream about Knowledge

Dreams: Self Forgiveness of/for Interpretation through Knowledge

Step 1: Whenever you are interpreting – you are using the Mind and you’re using knowledge you already have or things you have already captured through your photographic capturing system called the eyes. Capturing a lot more than what you’re consciously seeing and use that within you interpretations to make sense of your reality.

Unconditional forgiveness is the key – do not try and understand knowledge or interpretations – because you were not present when you captured the images. Therefore – unconditionally let them go – then you look again – unconditional self forgiveness on everything.

When you are structuring your forgiveness in sentences – for instance – I forgive myself that I have allowed myself...then you follow the words in sequence – as you would literally physically rub out or erase the geometrical form of the pictured interpretation. This is done that your forgiveness in words – is actual physical space-time related as you have interpreted and accepted your space-time reality according to the pictures that reflects in your mind as your observations.


( Sunette)


Self-Forgiveness on Sleeping

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to believe that I need and must have sufficient sleep otherwise if I don't - I'll be tired

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to become dependent on sleep

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to believe that 'lack of sleep' exist - and that if I were to 'lack sleep' - I will be tired

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to define 'lack of sleep' to tiredness

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed to believe that tiredness exist

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that tiredness is an idea / belief designed of the mind, accepted and allowed as 'normal' due to 'lack of sleep'

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to believe that sleeping 8 - 9 hours or more is healthy for my human physical body

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to define sleeping as healthy

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize, see or understand that sleeping is a system the mind system use to alter / change / update itself - while / during I am unconscious

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to use / abuse sleep as an escape from my reality, manipulating the reason and cause for sleeping through 'making it sound acceptable' through believing sleeping 8 - 9 hours or more is healthy

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to use sleep as a method of hiding from self responsibility and facing myself within and as my reality in every moment as the moment as the breath

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that the body only requires rest for a maximum of 6 hours - and that's it

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that the mind is the directive principle of me - as it has the ability to induce perceptual tiredness, which is the mind consciousness systems' 'signal / sign' that it requires regeneration and rejuvenation - which is done through sleeping 8 - 9 hours or more

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that tiredness and sleep exist within the mind of the mind - it is not who I am

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to be directed, influenced and controlled by the mind - through it informing me when it's 'tired', then using me to 'sleep' while it rejuvenates and regenerates and replenishes itself as it takes me on the journey through my subconscious and unconscious mind - to 'allocate' manifestations to pre-occupy me during another day while I'm 'awake'

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed my mind to use me - I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that abuse exist within self, through accepting and allowing myself to be abused by the mind - and because I accept / allow this within me - I accept / allow this within the rest of the world as me

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that 'sleeping' and 'awake' is also polarity manifestations of the mind - I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that it's the mind that sleeps and it's the mind that wakes up and thus - that I have never really lived

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself realize that the 'normalcy' of sleeping 8 - 9 hours a day is accepted and allowed by all of humanity within and of the unified consciousness field because it's the exact amount of time the mind requires to allocate manifestations within the unconscious mind, then to merge them into the conscious mind as the mind 'wakes' - I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that the manifestations merged into the conscious mind, extracted from the unconscious mind is of the unified consciousness field from other human beings - yet - the moment I believe a thought to be me, as me, - I make such manifestations my own and in this moment - I infuse other human beings' thought patterned behaviors / habits within and as the mind consciousness system that exist within me - and thus such manifestations become me

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that the mind is 'at work' while I 'sleep' - conjuring and gathering manifestations of any and all kinds, extracted from the unconscious mind - to merge into my conscious mind, so I believe that such manifestations to be me, because it exists in my mind - and so the mind consciousness system within me 'upgrades itself' every evening I 'sleep'

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that dreams are used by the mind consciousness system to divert my attention while I sleep to not actually understand / know what's really going on while I sleep - therefore - dreams were meaningless

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to believe that who I am exist as thoughts, feelings and emotions - needing 'lots of sleep' for a 'healthy life'

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that 'lots of sleep' 8 - 9 hours or more - is healthy for the mind consciousness system within me as that which I have accepted and allowed myself to become

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that 'the difficulty of waking up in the mornings' is my emergence as the mind from the unconscious, to the subconscious to the conscious mind - which 'takes a while' - then when I'm 'awake' and 'up' - it's actually me as the conscious mind, actively participating within and of the unified consciousness field

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to define who I am as sleep / sleeping

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to define who I am as tired / tiredness

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to participate in the pre-occupation and attention diversion of the mind as thoughts/feelings/emotions to not accept or allow myself to experience myself as the breath of life as the moment - here as who I am

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that who I am is the breath as the breath as the moment - here

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to believe/think that if I sleep 'less than' I usually do - I will be tired the next morning - instead of realizing that I am designing the very experience of tiredness in the morning through the perceptual belief/idea that less sleep equals tiredness

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed the idea/belief of 'less sleep than I usually have' equals tiredness the next morning - which influence the experience of me within and throughout the entire day - instead of remaining here as the breath as me in every moment

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to wake up in the morning as the breath as me as the moment as me

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that it's the mind that struggles to wake up in the mornings - as it merges with me as me from the unconscious mind to the subconscious mind to the conscious mind - where it eventually later 'wakes up' completely

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that in the mornings when I open my eyes and I accept / allow myself to participate in one singular thought - I 'activate' all the workings / findings / manifestations the mind retrieved and obtained within the unconscious mind while I was being pre-occupied through dreams - referred to as sleeping - and then allow / accept all such manifestations to infuse within me as me - and thus become such manifestations as thought patterns and behaviors within and of the unified consciousness field.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that sleeping is literal sleep - the complete submerge of me, as the mind does it's work - because I as who I am is not aware

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that 'awakening' and 'awake' that exist within and of the unified consciousness field - is the 'awake' and 'awakening' of the mind in it's entirety - that it's not to be awake - but to live practically as who I am which is here as the moment as the breath as me - because for 'awake / awakening' to exist - 'sleep / sleeping' must exist - the 'awake/awakening' for the mind of the mind and the 'sleep / sleeping' for me of me, disappearing into the background within myself until I no longer exist and only the mind as what I have accepted and allowed myself to become exist as me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that I have always been asleep - the actual sleeping of me as the manifested experience thereof is proof - as the mind exists always, the mind is always active - and thus proof that I have never actually practically lived before as who I am as the breath as the moment as me

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that I have never actually practically lived as who I am as the breath as the moment as me - but that I have always accepted and allowed the mind to control / direct and influence me through believing and perceiving that who I am is thoughts/feelings and emotions

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to separate myself from the human physical body of life - from the breath - not realizing that breath is life as me nurturing the expression and manifestation of life as the human physical body as me - I am breath - I am human physical body - I am here - I am moment

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to be submerged within and as myself through allowing and accepting myself to be and become the mind consciousness system - because I have believed the lie that I need to be and become the mind consciousness system to survive and exist within and as the unified consciousness field

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to be and become the mind consciousness system - to be of thoughts, feelings and emotions - because it's what and who everyone else has become as those that have gone before me which I have believed and trusted to be 'my example' -instead of realizing I am the unconditional innocence of self expression of life that exist as the moment as the breath of life as me - the simplicity of practical living exist here as the moment as the breath within and as oneness and equality as the human physical body as the manifestation of life as life of me as me

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that I am simplicity

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that I am breath as life of life as me

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realize that the very manifestation of creation as me of life within and as oneness and equality is here as the human physical body of the breath of life as me.


Dream about white larva-wormish things eating into the soles of my foot

Question

Just remembered one more dream that left me feeling strange. i know a lot has been written about dreams already and I’m starting to understand the function they fulfill as assisting: i can't remember the whole dream, i just remember the end bit, where i ended up jumping into this huge barrel or metal container, it was white in colour and there was loads of millet inside, my partner was with me, and it was awfully moist inside. then i took off one of my shoes cause i felt a strange grinding feeling and i discovered a whole bunch of white larva-wormish things eating into the sole of my foot.... was disgusting, so i tried to wipe them off, trying to pull them out of the holes they were making in the sole of my foot, i got all out but one and that one went in deeper so i couldn’t get hold of it, all i could feel was the grinding feeling of something eating on my flesh and with that feeling i woke up and i had to actually check my foot cause it felt so real.

What came to my mind now, was that the worms/larva were the system, the mind trying to get in deeper into me and i'm trying to wipe it off, out of self, myself


Perspective

The dream with the worms/larva is actually a manifested fear that you have of 'being eaten while you are still alive' - what I would suggest here is to have a look at the description of the dream again and apply self forgiveness for the experience of you within the dream - and of the fear of 'being eaten while you're still alive' - of being in a situation and 'your life is out of your hands'. This done, to release yourself from the fear manifested connection your mind has of 'being eaten while you're still alive' and 'your life being out of your hands'.

It also 'links' with the fear of not 'being in control' of you and you world - the fear of 'freedom of self expression' - 'freedom of self expression' exists in every moment you live self honesty - but human beings 'tend to' want to control their world and themselves according to how their mind has been designed by preferences, which gives off the illusion of stability and strength. Here I suggest self forgiveness on 'wanting' and desiring to control you and your world according the mind's preference and design, and also on defining control and stability and strength. Applying / living self control is not allowing / accepting yourself to participate in this mind - but stop immediately when you realise that you're in the mind and to apply self forgiveness.

Yes - as you said, it is the mind 'grinding' deeper into you as you through utilizing fears that exist within you - which you believe and perceive yourself to be, though, fear is a design of the mind as emotion and not who you really are.

Here is a self-forgiveness list on Self-Control and Fear:

http://desteni.org/a/veno-self-forgiveness-self-control (control)

http://desteni.org/a/veno-self-forgiveness-fear (Fear)

(Sunette)


Dream about singing onstage

Question

Today is Thanksgiving in the USA and this morning I dreamt:

I am in a Church-Auditorium that is empty - but will soon be filling up with people - and a woman asks me to sing a hit 60's song: "Everlasting Love." I'm freaked because I can't remember all the words to the song, and the woman says: 'Don't worry, I will sing it with you - we'll rehearse it together before we go on stage.' So after a little practicing with her I go back-stage to put on makeup - I'm still very uncomfortable about singing but feel forced to do it anyway - and while putting on makeup before the show begins I discover that the makeup on my face is a bright YELLOW and oddly enough the stage is a bright yellow as well. I'm stunned and confused.

I then heard myself say: "Reverse my mind" and suddenly I can see my mind reversing - like a CD reversing itself -- and then I hear the music to the song: "Everlasting Love" that I had been asked to sing - and it's very very loud inside my head! The music was so loud that it woke me up.


Perspective

This was a dream designed by your interdimensional support within and as you together with two other interdimensional beings (Chief and Lilly) - designing a dream with regards to specifying colour and sound specifically - so, as I hear your words, they were quite effective (lol).

Though - the 'essence' of the dream is how you've defined 'love as God', 'subconsciously' within your mind, as well as defining 'love as the colour yellow', defining 'love as church', defining 'love as being needed or recognized by another being' and defining 'love as singing'.

So, I suggest self-forgiveness on the above 'definitions' of 'love' within you and any other separate defined connotations and connections that may exist within you with regards to the word 'love'.

The 'mind reversing' is also to 'reveal' that the mind is just a 'programmed system' like a 'CD Player' - which 'reverse' and 'fast forwards' back and forth as the mind exist in the past and future and not here as breath as who you are in every moment.


Dreams about sentence constructs, self-growth and male/female definitions

Question

1. One of them i believe there was a white worm coming out of my lip.

2. Long ago i remember waking up crying as i had a dream about some child i felt sorry for who had long purple fingernails?

3. The other i believe was part symbolism, in the dream i was trying to follow one of my 'lady friends' son as he somewhat got on this what looked like the symbol for a female, you know like the hoop at the top with the cross at the bottom, almost as if the son got on this 'female symbol' and teetered it to the other plan or rode it to the other side. but i was too scared to clear it then i woke up


Perspective

First dream: The worm coming out of your lip is 'sentence constructs', consisting of words you speak, which has manifested as the 'alter personality' of you as the ego of the mind - thus, such words as sentences, formed constructed systems within you, by which you 'define who you are' within and as separation - instead of realising yourself as the living word.

Second dream: Nails represent the 'self growth and self moment' - the colour purple 'represents' royalty from a unified consciousness field perspective, the mind definition of purple as representing royalty. So, with regards to your dream - you as a child 'defined' you as who and what you were 'going to become' as per the definition of you as 'successful, aspiring to greatness' which is all of the mind. The dream indicate that you define who you are according to the position and placement of yourself in this world, what you do - your 'growth and expansion' is related to 'achievement and goals' instead of you remaining you as who you are in every moment as every breath within and as self honesty.

Third dream: The indication of the 'feminine' - see, young children, when they're small - they're exactly the same to a certain extent - not 'defined' within their expression according to male/female - they're just pure expression of innocence in the moment - yet - as human beings come of age - they start 'defining' themselves according to male and female / feminine and masculine and 'build and establish' their foundation of their 'personality' of the mind - according to this - placed as symbols of symbolism within the unified consciousness field of the world - instead of each human being standing within and as oneness and equality as themselves here in every moment, innocence of expression as the moment as the breath - not defined by male/female or masculine/feminine.


Dream about a roller coaster ride

Question

I had a very interesting insight into recent events last night. I dreamt that I was on a high-speed, high-tech rollercoaster ride. Me and a passenger were advancing through a vast infinity of space (and time.) An angry voice announced that I would "be killed." I had allowed these piercing and hateful words to be thoroughly absorbed into my being; then I woke up.


Perspective

The ‘roller coaster ride in vast infinity of space and time’ within your dream illustrate the ‘roller coaster’ ride the mind takes one on when accepted and allowed to participate in it – then you’re lost in the ‘amusement park of the roller coaster ride the mind represents’ – instead of being here in every moment of breath.

I would suggest self forgiveness on ‘defining the words ‘you would be killed’ as ‘hateful’ – because it’s not that it’s ‘hateful’ – but mere words spoken within your dream, within which you assisted and supported you to check and see whether or what your reaction would be within you.

See – dreams are specific with regards to where you are currently within your process – so, have a look at your experience of you within your dreams and how you’re from here able to assist and support you within your process.

Have a look at any reactions that had come up within the dream when the words ‘you will be killed’ came up and apply self forgiveness – because within this ‘point’ you were facing ‘fear of death’ within you.

With regards to awareness – I would suggest the following:

Realise that ‘spiritual awareness’ – is still of separation. Awareness as you: One and Equal is who you are here in every moment of breath –you aware as breath here: I am awareness here in every moment of breath.

Therefore – assist and support you to stop participating in the amusement park of the mind of rollercoaster rides within which one is able to ‘get lost’ – but remain here as breath in awareness as you.


Dream about alien space crafts

Question

It is a reoccurring dream I have had for as long as I can remember - Though they are all slightly different in their own way - All of the dreams have to do with a huge amount of alien space craft’s descending into the atmosphere it is normally a sunny day - and they hang there like a brooding thundercloud - they all descend at once - and they span the entire skyline and horizon - millions of crafts - very similar or exactly the same to each other - and of course people are panicking and going crazy - which is kind of entertaining to me to see people showing some emotion and getting outside of themselves - now everyone is friendly and communicating because they are scared to death - so me and whatever group of people I am among usually end up in a large building on a high floor - and we are sitting underneath desks or finding a safe place - but I never feel any fear - just a huge rush - and I normally walk out alone to get as close to the aliens as possible - hoping they are friendly - and the dream always seems to end there - I had one of my more recent dreams turn out a little different - there were far less(or invisible) aircrafts - it was nighttime - and there were more warlike planes instead of the typical round ones - they were attacking and they blew up a catholic church - I ran home in a panic worried about my girlfriend - as soon as I arrived at here house I was relieved because she was okay -The attack and panic around me continued and I again found myself in a building with a grand view of what seemed like invisible planes flying around and kind of attacking but not doing too much damage to anything - the end - I always hope in these dreams to get a little further and actually speak to an alien - but no cigar


Perspective

Now you have to look at your experience within the dreams - for the dreams indicate a form of fascination with the aliens as you view them as a superior race of sorts, within your subconscious mind, believing that 'aliens' will come to earth in some way or form or manifestation, now you as the mind is preparing you for such an 'arrival' of aliens.

So, look within yourself and have a look - where a 'desire' exist within you, for aliens to come to earth, because you in some way believe that they're here for a reason / purpose - instead of you in every moment of every breath giving yourself reason/purpose for being here - but placing responsibility within another / others hands to maybe possibly one day hopefully come 'to make a difference' in this world - instead of you standing up and taking self-responsibility.

See, it's the mind's interpretation of superiority and inferiority playing out here within the dreams - fear of harm - yet at the same time, curious and intrigued - this is the game the mind plays which the dream portrays.

You as who you are, believing you are inferior due to participation in the mind of thoughts, feelings and emotions, the mind the 'God' of your being as you believe and perceive yourself to be the mind, then the mind use curiosity and intrigue to 'trap' you within and of the 'act of thinking', by participating in thoughts.


Dream about Astral traveling

Question

I was wondering about dreams! I've always thought they were times when we travel out of our bodies and do other stuff in the astral. I've had dreams that were so real! Once I dreamed of being on a stage singing and when I woke up.......I swear......my physical body felt as though I had just been singing my heart out. I could feel it in my throat. And also wondering about beings in our dreams......as a pre-teen I had a constant dream of who I called ,"the white lady"........she was all white......kinda scary and just watched me. I would dream of her outside on the sidewalk under the streetlight watching my room.......Id look out the window in my dream and there she was! Id dream she was next to my bed and wake up frozen ...to scared to roll over in case she was there. In the back yard..........just watching. Very strange! So I was just wondering what they are all about!


Perspectives

Hi

Dream-states, previously as experiences you have had, are 'mind states'.

See - the mind does not rest/sleep - this 'mind state' is an alternate mind manifested illusion, within which the mind 'plays' with concept/ideas - trying/attempting to understand itself, without you being an 'active' 'conscious' participant while you are 'awake'. Where the mind directs itself while you 'sleep' though you'll experience yourself in/as the dream - because the mind is of you.

When you are 'awake' - you 'use' the mind - the 'mind' needing you as you 'need' the mind as the mind have become you.

Yet - while you're asleep - your mind will 'submerge' into an alternate mind manifested illusion and try/attempt to understand/comprehend certain subconscious/unconscious experiences you've had during the day which you yourself were not 'conscious' of - but your mind was.

Have a look - previously dreams were confusing, made no sense, leaving you experiencing yourself being 'befuddled' in some way - the dreams indicative of the mind's experience within this reality.

Dreams previously reflected the 'true state' of the mind's 'relationship' within the being who 'powers' its existence.

Though - at the moment - 'dreams' have become particular in nature - they have been directed/transformed to support/assist human beings within their processes - and not the other way around where the mind is trying to figure itself out/understand itself.

So - if you have any interesting dreams - let us know - write them down the morning when you 'remember' them, write also your own observations of the dreams you have had and post them - then we'll be able to assist/support with perspective if necessary.

Quote: 'Ive had dreams that were so real! Once I dreamed of being on a stage singing and when I woke up.......I swear......my physical body felt as though I had just been singing my heart out. I could feel it in my throat.'

See - the mind consciousness system exist within and as your entire human physical body - all of your human physical body. You experience yourself in a mind state when you're awake and when you're asleep - all that 'change' is the 'reality'. In the one reality - you're awake, an 'active participant' though when you're asleep - the mind directs 'itself' without you being an 'active participant', though you will experience what the mind experience as the mind is of you - as I have mentioned.

Have you seen the Matrix - where Neo was 'plugged into' the Jump Program and he fell off the building onto the ground - when he 'returned', being 'plugged out' - Neo feels his mouth and there's blood and he turns to Morpheus and he asks: “I thought it wasn't real?” and Morpheus replies: “The mind makes it real” and 'The body cannot live without the mind.' In terms of the words “the body cannot live without the mind' - is a statement of when your mind consciousness system and body is as one - if your mind suddenly 'shuts down' - the body will 'die' - because your body has become of the mind consciousness system - that's why silencing the mind is a process - so that you may exist within and as oneness of the human physical body as life. Have you seen the movie 'Shine'? This is what happens when the mind is silenced in one moment without you being prepared and understanding what's happening - and therefore - also the body not being prepared as you - therefore - silencing the mind is a process - done with awareness - where life will be born from the physical as you as one with your human physical body - no mind consciousness system of separation existing within you.

This is the exact same situation with regards to the 'realism' of dreams that you experience within and as your human physical body - within both 'realities' your mind is 'active' - in the one, your 'plugged into' the mind, when you're 'awake' - in the other you're not 'plugged' in - though the mind still exist within and as your human physical body as you - and thus will experience what the mind experiences.

Thus - when you dream - you must become as 'Neo' in the matrix - 'awake' within both realities - whether you're 'plugged in' or not - realising that you must direct you with awareness when you dream - and that you're actually able to direct your dreams - in other words - direct the mind instead of being the slave to it where it directs you when you're asleep.


Dream about implants

Question

Hi, was reading Venos structural resonance 12, very good article. When i read the article i thought about what my mother sad to me, she said she had dreams in the past about beings that had done experiments on her... don't know if this experiments were true or just dreams... One dream was about some beings... or was it her neighbor... anyway... was putting some sort of liquid in the ear and filling it up so it created a pressure in the head i think... the other dream was about her had some sort of thing on her back... it look like a net... that was on her back and she sad it felt strange... the beings had this net like thing on here back and did something with the back or the spine or both... She asked them to stop.. Cu's she didn’t like the feeling of it.. then they said it was the last time... So was this dream true??? she sad the dream was very very clear and remember it very good. But did the things in the dream occur or was it just an mind creation?


Perspective

It's interesting the following statement: That people perceive the dream-world experience to be the illusion, but who says that this world we experience ourselves within isn't maybe possibly the illusion...

I had a quick look at your mother's experience in terms of the dream and no - it wasn't just a dream, dimensional beings did indeed insert implants within human beings' physical body in such a way and not only in your mother. Especially 'newly developed' systems which they implanted personally instead of through system lock-ins which automatically inserted implants which have been approved as effective after specific trial periods of experimentation, into the human beings' physical body when necessary. What they did was the following: They'd wait until the human reaches the 'deep-sleep' state, then quantify the human physical body, including the mind consciousness system, as though slowing down space and time here on earth yet speeding it up to quantum time at the same time where everything moves very fast yet slow at the same time. They didn't have the ability to become one with space and time here on earth, yet they had the ability to quantify space and time - where everything for a moment moves very slow yet fast at the same time. Then in such a way they had access to space and time, which is earth, this manifested three dimensional existence, within which they had the ability to do what was necessary to be done. During evenings when the human beings would sleep, their mind is inactive to a certain extent and is able to direct the mind consciousness system to Alpha State - it is in the experience of the being during Alpha state that the quantification process was instilled. And it is here, in this 'state' that interdimensional implants were done, infused and manifested within the human physical body - which takes 'time' or a period, if you will, because the interdimensional system implants have to infuse and manifest within and as the human physical body entirely - therefore they quantify space and time as I have explained.

So yes, what your mother experienced actually did occur - yet understand that all such systems and implants have been removed from within all human beings - basically we removed everything from within human beings which they are not able to 'deal' with or transcend themselves - yet the process of self realisation is still required - this realisation of who you are which we're not able to give you, you must and will experience this as YOU because if I were to give it - it would become knowledge and information instead of an expression that is YOU that remains infinitely. So we removed as much as possible from within human beings, literally all that exist within human beings are your mind, your thoughts, emotions and feelings that are required to be transcended and realised that they're not you and then the process of actually living and applying who you are. Seems so simple in words, yet the actual application thereof, well, that's a completely different experience - so be patient, though don't become a patient it's a process, it's a process!


Dream about being arrested

Question I dreamed I was being arrested by a tan skinned Indian or Mexican. I was looking over his shoulder as blacks were coming up a stairway from the coast line or a boat and walking pass me as I was arrested. What does this mean?


Perspective

Ask yourself the following question: Who are you within your world - do you exist within separation of you and what exist in your world or do you stand within and as oneness and equality as you as your world as the experience of yourself within your world / 'life experience'?

Have a look at the 'races / cultures / physical appearance / physical presentation' etc. that exist and surround you - even within your dream - now - it is to stand within and as oneness and equality as all that exist that surrounds you within your world.

The question is - how do you practically stand within and as oneness and equality as you as your world within which you experience yourself?

Firstly - as you're able to notice within your words - there exist separation within what you see with your human physical eyes - though - no-one in this existence is the picture presentation of themselves they see in the mirror with their human physical eyes - yet - it is you as one and equal as you. So - I have the following suggestion:

As you walk within and as your 'life experience' in this world - place the human beings that you see inside you - within you as you - you're even able to do this in the evenings before you go to sleep - place the beings inside you as you - if any reactions step forth within your mind as thoughts, feelings or emotions - apply self forgiveness. Another suggestion is to when you go to sleep ND - 'delete' all the pictures of the day that you have seen with your human physical eyes inside your mind - if the picture come up - just say 'delete' - and it'll be gone.

Why do this - so that you do not exist of pictures within and as separation of what you see with your human physical eyes - but instead start realising that what you see is you - who you communicate or interact with is you - and thus - from here - you will start directing you, your world and other participating within it with you -as you within and as oneness and equality as you - and no longer accept / allow anything less that who you are within yourself, your world or others as you within your world.

Do not accept / allow separation to exist within you - stand within and as oneness and equality within and as yourself in every moment of every breath as you.

(Jack)


Dream of being underwater

Question

Some were VERY strange dreams of being under the water hiding while I’m being looked for. I can breath and everything but I’m in a pond or something looking up at the surface from the bottom. Even diving into mud to get away from people and coming up in the bottom of a pond watching from beneath the water.


Perspective

Hiding within/amongst others presence - camouflaging yourself if necessary (diving into the mud).

When you're in the vicinity/presence of other beings - you submerge yourself into a 'form' or 'hiding' and then only 'surface' as you when you're alone.

Within you - you'll retreat in the presence of others, though when you are alone within your own presence - you're here as you.

Thus - you fear others 'finding you' - discovering this 'you' you hide when in their presence.

Thus - you actually fear you - and you're 'searching' for you - but you're hiding/camouflaging yourself.

In your dream already exist the answer: You fear you, thus you hide from yourself and camouflage you from yourself.

Now to see/understand/discover the reason/purpose for you fearing you and why you are hiding/camouflaging you from yourself.

When you have this dream again - with awareness in your dream - stand up from the water - with the following statement: I no longer fear me. I no longer accept or allow myself to hide/camouflage me from myself. I no longer have to search or seek myself because I am here.

P.S You don't necessarily have to wait for the dream to come to be able to make this statement - so with awareness in every moment - observe yourself and where you might allow yourself to hide from yourself/camouflage yourself and to stop searching and seeking yourself but realise that you are here in every moment of self honesty in application.

Dream about floating on the ocean

Question

I was floating in the open sea drifting away in the middle of what looked like the beginning of a storm (Darkened sky, some light areas, wind, turbulence etc.) I wasn't scared at that point and i was asking myself: Why I’m not scared if I’m objectively lost in the middle of nowhere? I felt kind of free, liberated so to speak not being able to form thoughts (Something i could feel there) but to observe the movement i was involved in. The water was cool. Then suddenly the water opens so to speak, like a void, and i see many dolphins at that point, like standing in the border i start to feel fear which only lasted for what i perceived as a relative short period of time, and then i realize the water of this sea is "black" or full of "dust" at that moment was quite simple i immerse myself in the waters and start to "breath" while trying to reach the dolphins, which then fade in the deep darkness of the water. They were many, this called my attention


Perspective

The Ocean represents oneness.

The experience you had in your dream was with regards to change that is to come within existence, the change and experience each human being will 'go through' - during this 'change', everything may seem 'dark', and 'dusty' meaning that you're not able to 'see exactly where you're going' - where all that has been known will 'disappear' within the 'darkness' - but it is in the 'darkness' the 'unknown' that you must go - transcend the fear of the unknown and let go and release yourself from that which you know.

The dolphins in your dream was assisting you in transcending your fear of the unknown - where all that has been 'known' / 'trusted' in this world or of your world will disappear and all that remains is you - all you 'have' is you as self trust and self honesty in every moment - walking within and as and through the unknown - with only you that remains.

Thus - the 'next' time you have a similar dream - go through the darkness - walk through your fear of the unknown so you, for you, may realise what this statement as: I remain - really 'means' as a practical application as you in every moment.

And observe yourself as you experience yourself in your world - where does the 'unknown' exist within your world and within you - where you fear 'going', or what you resist - there/here exist your transcendence


Dream about black voids, whales and statues

Question

The first one I had was while camping at Mammoth Lakes in California. I come to awareness in the dream in this eternal void of darkness. No 'me', just blackness everywhere and my awareness of the blackness. No body. Then, this line appears in front of my awareness, a line that stretches on forever. I know that down one way is the Past, and down the other way is the Future, and directly in front of me is “now”. The Time-Line of the Material, I called it. Then, the Line starts to rotate, like the blade of a helicopter, until the Line passed into my awareness. In that instant, when my awareness was inside the line, all past/present/future was condensed into a singularity, a one-moment. I woke up like a bell had gone off. The greatest thing that happened as a result of that 'dream' was that I became un-afraid. Things didn't scare me... the future didn't frighten me like it had. All things “are happening, have happened, will happen” depending on how I choose to look at it. It was freaky, and I got made fun of by my friends when trying to explain it, but no dream had ever left me with such a tool to reason in this world. More a 'gift' than a 'dream'.

The next Power-Dream was years later. I was camping at Hanakapiai Beach up the Kalalau trail on Kauai, Hawaii on a backpacking trip I was on. In the dream, I am on a beach, and before me, this huge wave. In the face of the wave I see a big sea turtle. When the wave crashes, up from the froth stands a girl/young woman, who walks directly towards me. Then I woke up, unzipped my tent door and look out at the water just in time to see these two whales leaping into the air, closer to shore than I'd ever seen whales. It was like magic, honestly. Then it rained for like 5 days straight. But, even though I was damp, I still made the decision to pack up from my life in cali and move to the island, where I stayed for 8 years, until last April.

THEN, I was camping in Napa Valley with family in June and I had another IMAX dream. In it, I'm in a jungle zone, standing next to this big rock, about the size of a mini-bus or so. At first, the rock means nothing, but then, I start to see it's true shape and see it focus into some sort of Sphinx-like statue. The whole thing became outlined in blue neon-sort of like tricked-out trucks or low-rider cars have this neon lighting underneath? It was like that... and THEN, the statue and I are actually on the edge of a massive, massive cliff, or 'pali', with the ocean below us. The face of the cliff is polished black, and I'm standing there, next to this neon-blue outlined sphinx thing looking out over the ocean, and, beyond the horizon, beyond the curve of the earth, I see two enormous, fiery mushroom clouds rising up over the horizon, far far off. And that's it. Standing next to my sphinx on a mile-high cliff, watching nukes go off somewhere beyond the horizon. I woke up.

The informational experiences I had back in 2005 that I talk about in my 'introduction' post weren't 'dreams' so much as concepts squished into and out of my mind like hamburger from a meat-grinder at 4am.


Perspective


1st Dream perspective:


Quote: All things “are happening, have happened, will happen” depending on how I choose to look at it.


What I'd suggest in terms of specific application here is the following: That it's not about 'choice' - rather 'who you are' in every moment, with every breath - in and as self honesty as you - you 'manifest' your world and the experience of yourself within this world according to your application/expression in every moment, with every breath. Thus - to be aware of 'who you are' in every moment - are you self honest or self dishonest. Application of forgiveness with corrective application when you observe that you're not being self honest with you - thus 'honouring' you in every moment through self forgiveness and self 'correction'.

'Choice' - there's a video that'll be uploaded tonight on YouTube which will give interesting perspective on 'Choice'.

2nd Dream Perspective:

The Whales assisted you to 'bring forth' your expression of actually 'making the move' to experience yourself within the surroundings where you had the dream. You actually 'wanted' to 'live' in such surroundings - but you weren't actually aware of such an expression existing within you. The Whales merely assisted you in 'bringing this expression' of experiencing yourself constantly and continuously in such surroundings: To your awareness.

3rd Dream Perspective:

Merely revealing that nothing has changed in the 'evolution' of Man - Man through apparent 'evolution' have but 'evolved' in the field of War and conflict - the inner manifesting the outer - and so we have 'apparently 'evolved' since the Egyptian-era - and to what? What you see in the distant future was/is but the outcome experienced in this moment on earth: Evolution of self destruction.

If this continue - we'll most certainly self-destruct - utilizing our own 'manifestations' in this self destruction - destroyed by our own manifestations.

Thus - we have to stop - and it is stopping - thus each one must take responsibility for themselves and stand up. To be in this world but not of this world.


(Veno)


Dream about a Zombie like expression

Question

I just woke from a very strange dream and I’m wondering if it’s one of those mind dreams where nothing makes sense. I was in a room and there was some woman there.........she was nude (there was nothing sexual about her nudity...just nude) and was very zombie like........just stared into space. If I got too close to her she would latch her hand onto whatever was closest.......mostly my wrist and she would NOT let go. It almost makes me thing that in her zombie state.........she was my system not wanting to let me go...........but I did break free of her hold. At one point while she was holding my wrist......no expression........not even looking at me and just not letting go...the room was 1/2 full of water. At some point in the dream I tried to scream and nothing came out! I hate those kind of dreams! I think I did finally break free from her...... but the dream kind of jumped around from that room to a hospital room..........I couldn’t scream there either! I know there is something within me that needs to be sorted out as far as having to give up my complete control of myself in a way while in the hospital as a kid. Multiple surgeries and felt like I had to just go out of my body while whatever happened...happened. In fact .....when I have to have something unpleasant and invasive done to my hips.........if Im awake...........I take my awareness up to the ceiling until they are done. I even tell them........"Ill be up there".


Perspective

This experience with the woman in the room - is a room that exists within you - that has become so automated that you're not even aware of it.

This room in your dream is a room/space that exist within you within which you escape 'reality' - therefore the presentation of nudity and the zombie-like, no expression, presentation is the suppression of self rather than the direct standing up and revelation of 'I am here'.

The room itself represents a 'closing-off' of self from the 'outside world' as human beings and reality - separating and enclosing you within yourself as protection - instead of facing reality and those that surrounds you head-on, standing as who you are no matter what, no matter where you are or with who you are: I am here, this is who I am.

And in this enclosure/seclusion within yourself - you have not yet given yourself the opportunity to live - to live you within and as who you are in every moment with every breath - and thus became an expressionless zombie.

The woman in the room is you - gripping you - she as you wants to be set free - she as you wants to experience life - what it means to really live. The sudden grip was her as you making you aware of this manifestation of you within you - you must wake you up from this expressionless zombie state.

Diane: Living is not about what you're able to do physically. Living is of the expression of you within and as who you are in every moment - living the words you speak as the living word as one with you.

How do you wake you up as this woman - stop the thoughts, self forgiveness and self honesty in every moment of you.

I suggest before you go to sleep this evening - close your eyes and see this woman as you before you - place her within you as you -and then apply forgiveness for not allowing yourself to live. For not realising that you have become an expressionless zombie - that you have suppressed you as who you are within an enclosed room, forgotten. That you didn't realise that living is not about what you're capable of doing physically - but living is the expression of who you are of self honesty as you in every moment of every breath. Then you live and express you in every breath: In and as the breath: I am here. Then Diane - as this woman within you as one - you take a breath - a deep breath, gentle - as you breathe life into her as you - you as life as this woman as one...then you'll see: I am here.

Diane - you've been hiding you long enough girl - now - allow yourself to live Diane, allow yourself to express Diane, it's about who you are within and as you - not about the physical - it has been now long enough that you have been considering others before you - hiding there somewhere inside you - you've forgotten that you've hidden yourself there inside you - now stand up within and as who you are - as you breathe life within you and stand as one as this woman as you, you have forgotten in the room/space within you - she is you - as you're asking to live to express in every moment.


Forgiveness example for all who 'hide' in rooms within themselves

Here are some self forgiveness words:

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to hide from myself.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to be influenced by others 'possible' perceptions of me.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to 'care' of what others may possibly think of me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to live me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to express me.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to forget about me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realise that I had placed myself within a secluded room within myself through fear of others.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to neglect myself by placing myself within a secluded room within myself, through fear of what others may possibly think of me.

I forgive myself that I have defined who I am according to the physical instead of realising that I am one and equal as my human physical body.

I forgive myself that I haven't realised that in placing myself within a secluded room within myself - that I had become an expressionless zombie - where I had hidden and forgotten about me.

I forgive myself that I haven't realised the fear and sadness within me because I had hidden and forgotten me.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to judge myself through they eyes of others.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to accept myself.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed me to become self intimate with me.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to become lost.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to believe that I am lost.

I forgive myself that I fear others judgment of me.

I forgive myself that I molded and shaped me according to others possible perceptions of me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to experience me, who I am.

I forgive myself that I had taken others thoughts/feelings/emotions into consideration before me.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to suppress myself in others presence through fear of what they may possibly think of me.

I forgive myself that I fear living me

I forgive myself that I fear expressing me.

I forgive myself that I fear speaking and voicing me.

I forgive myself that I search and seek appreciation and validation of me in others.

I forgive myself that I haven't realised that I fear being in the presence of me.

I forgive myself that I fear presence as me.

I forgive myself that I fear aloneness.

I forgive myself that I fear being alone.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realise that I have searched and seeked love separate from myself.

I forgive myself that I believe that I need love, that I need someone.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to enjoy me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself freedom as me.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to believe that I need protection from others who may possibly hurt me emotionally.

I forgive myself for fearing to get hurt.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to believe that I need protection.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to believe that I need to feel safe and secure with another.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to be self honest as me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to realise that I do not require protection, safety or security from another: I am self acceptance. I am here.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to experience myself as inferior to others.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to feel 'less than' in others presence.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to separate me from myself.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to constantly exist in fear, anxiety, self judgment, sadness, anger and frustration.

I forgive myself for being angry with me because I haven't allowed myself to live and express me - but secluded and hid me from myself.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to see me.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to take me into consideration.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to hear me.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to take myself for granted and therefore take others for granted.

I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to move, expand and flow.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to believe that I am stuck.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to 'miss me'.

I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to judge myself when I made a mistake instead of realising that is was just a miss-take and I'll do it again until I grasp it. Enjoy

(Veno)


Dream about keys

Question

I was biting on keys and swallowing them, and in doing so woke up choking. I was standing behind a closed off area, not alone, seemed to be quite many, and in front of us there were guards, or police. I got the keys of those and simply bit them of, trying to swallow the other half. In the dream by doing so destroying something for them - what I have no idea. Dreams nowadays generally seem unpleasant, not scary, but it's just that I'd rather not have them at all.


Perspective

Yip - dreams no longer an escape to a different 'illusion reality' - it is for specific assistance and support.

Keys - open and unlock doors.

Guards/Police hold the 'enslavement' / 'freedom' of beings in their hands - they lock them into enslavement or unlock them to 'freedom'.

Thus - what you did by actually eating/ biting off the keys - is destroying them - taking your power and stating: You no longer hold my 'enslavement' / 'freedom' in your hands - I am taking responsibility for me. I am here.

Thus in doing so also removing the polarity construct of this world - the definition of enslavement' / 'freedom' of this world.

So - you would've either allowed the guards/police to have power over you through the idea of which they stand for as the key to either enslavement / freedom - but as you did was to stand up eat/destroy the keys and take your life and your power into your own hands.

The dream is indicating where you are in your process Marianne - thus you've started to take responsibility for you - you have taken your power and your life into your own hands: I am here.


(Veno)


Dream about a nuclear bomb

Question

I just woke from an extremely vivid dream where I was inside my house when I heard a giant rumbling outside. When I went out to look, I saw that a nuclear bomb went off, and within seconds I was completely obliterated by it. Is there any truth in a dream like this? Is there going to be another nuclear holocaust?


Perspective

It's your fear that's manifesting in your dreams - the fear of the world 'coming to an end' in such a way. Remember - everything is inverted, thus, fears will manifest in strange and unexpected ways.

If you had any emotional reactions to the dream: Self forgiveness suggested to release yourself from the fear.

(Winged)


Dream about religious system programming

Question

1. The first dream happened when I was around 9 years old. I remember lying in bed looking over at my window, it was late afternoon, there was a gentle breeze blowing across my face, and I could see the curtains swaying back and forth, then suddenly there was a piercing white light that permeated into everything, and then into me, and when I came through the light, I was floating out of the atmosphere of Earth, and I looked back at Earth, and I remember feeling happy and relieved that I was no longer in my body. Then I started drifting through space, and out of this galaxy of planets. In the next moment, I landed back in my body, and felt the bed bounce.


Perspective

Guides 'tended' to do this with human beings, as young as possible - to give them the experience - placing value and worth within the experience - instead of you realising that the experience is you as who you are within and as oneness and equality.

Thus - you have the knowledge of the experience - though you were not given methods or applications to live that experience as who you are within and as oneness and equality in every moment with every breath.

Thus - the 'guides' of the White Light - give you such an 'experience' for a moment - as separation - you don't accept yourself as the experience - the experience is not a realization of you as who you are within and as oneness and equality and it 'traps' you for the 'rest of your life' - just that moment experience of apparent 'magnificence' - 'programming' your mind into separation.


Quote: 2. This dream happened when I was in my teens. This was very sinister, most of the adults or the ones in authority had armoured plates over their chests and their eyes glowed red and they had tails. Very strange! And the ones that were being controlled were being drained, or changed into these vampire beings I guess. As they were coming for me, I couldn't move. Then I remembered something from my conscious to call on a higher power or God when you feel threatened in your dreams. I screamed for help and this powerful light surrounded me and stopped these beings. I woke up suddenly, terrified and shaking a lot. I've never had any dark or sinister dream again.


White Light programming - instead of you standing up within and as you - you 'called' on a 'Higher Power' e.g. 'The White Light/God' - which 'came to save you'.

Thus - the programming here was for you not to realise you as who you are - that you have the ability to stand up within and as who you are - instead - 'separation' - you have to 'believe' and 'depend' on a separate 'greater and higher source' - instead of you standing up as who you are no matter what.

Religious system programming.


Quote: 3. The third dream, I was walking along a path and I couldn't believe how beautiful everything was, the sky, the mountains, the trees, the birds, and the breeze blowing. As I continued along the path the path became a hill, then a mountain, and as I climbed up this white mountain, a man was waiting for me at the top, dressed in a white robe. He asked me, "Why are you here?", I said, "I just followed the path." He said, "It is not yet your time." With that I was back in my body, and I could feel the bed bounce.


White Light/Guides fucking with you - who decides when you're ready? You do - is your being 'ready' dependant on another? I would've said to him: Who are you to tell me I am not ready? I decide when I am ready.

So - look at where in your life and your world you still 'view' others as 'higher' / 'greater' / 'more powerful' than you on which you 'depend'. Instead of you standing alone (all one) as who you are, taking responsibility for you - self responsibility as you.

All that exist is you - you have to do this process for you through self honesty, self forgiveness and self application in every moment.

(Jack)