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What I'm trying to say is what am I suppose to be doing other then be in present time and if I'm always in present time how can I change the future? if there is even such thing as a future?
 
What I'm trying to say is what am I suppose to be doing other then be in present time and if I'm always in present time how can I change the future? if there is even such thing as a future?
  
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–You’re trying to use your very mind to understand yourself, to make sense of yourself and this is impossible – by your very questions you ask, you have just absorbed knowledge and information of which you are trying to make sense of and haven’t yet actually applied yourself. For instance by focusing on your breathing, stopping the thoughts/feelings and emotions that come up within you in every moment of breath, applying self forgiveness for any reactions of the mind you experience within you, applying self corrective application in every moment as you through being self honest with you = not of the mind, writing etc. = because it is within these applications – you applying you – that self honesty emerge, within self honesty, self realization emerge, within self realization, self awareness emerge, within self awareness, self trust emerge, within self trust self expression emerge = meaning you as who you really are.
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You’re trying to use your very mind to understand yourself, to make sense of yourself and this is impossible – by your very questions you ask, you have just absorbed knowledge and information of which you are trying to make sense of and haven’t yet actually applied yourself. For instance by focusing on your breathing, stopping the thoughts/feelings and emotions that come up within you in every moment of breath, applying self forgiveness for any reactions of the mind you experience within you, applying self corrective application in every moment as you through being self honest with you = not of the mind, writing etc. = because it is within these applications – you applying you – that self honesty emerge, within self honesty, self realization emerge, within self realization, self awareness emerge, within self awareness, self trust emerge, within self trust self expression emerge = meaning you as who you really are.
  
 
So, assist and support yourself through self application – to answer the question of ‘who you are’ for you – because it is impossible to realize you through reasoning /trying to make sense / equating it with your mind.
 
So, assist and support yourself through self application – to answer the question of ‘who you are’ for you – because it is impossible to realize you through reasoning /trying to make sense / equating it with your mind.

Revision as of 17:26, 6 February 2012

God in general is usually defined as the supreme being or the ultimate entity which possesses great powers and can influence and subdue anything to it's will.

God or gods are normally a vital, central part within religions with specific beliefs. Religions can have one god where it is usually defined as the creator of all things (as in Christianity) or even many gods, where they can be defined as supreme masters of a part of existence (like Poseidon, god of the sea from Greek mythology). A common fact about religious gods is that they cannot be directly seen or experienced in the physical reality. Therefore one has to have a belief or faith in a god in order to create an experience for self where one believes that the god exists and is 'real'.

The term god can also be applied or used to describe physical manifestations of this world with similar characteristics as described above. As for example: money as god of men, where it seemingly carries the power to decide between life and death of a person and everything in-between, just by it's presence or lack thereof.

2007

The Book: Conversations with God

Question

Ok so I know that there is no "God" in whom we must worship and please in order to get to heaven and have eternal life. However, I do believe that there is a supreme Being or "self" of the universe. This being is infinite love and is essence of the myriad forms of live on our planet and on others. I also believe that recently, he spoke through an author in the books "Conversations with God."

Anyways, I think it would be cool to interview him/her/it and hear what he /she/it has to say!


Perspective:

I loved Conversations as well and it really helped me as a stepping stone. But--sorry man--it was not god--it was a annunaki created archangel Michael pretending to be God, that's why the soul and even politics come into the books later. So alot of value in the books, but built at the core around deception-- the old 95% truth but 5% of the hub of the wheel deception. The way we have always been duped . This angels no longer exists.


The realization that there is no God

Question

I feel kind of sad. Actually, REALLY sad. I always thought that it was the REAL God he was talking to, because almost everything written felt so true and HAS been true in my experience. It would definitely be good to get some perspective on this. But does that mean that there is no GOD at all??

Perspective

Sorry there is no god just us. We did all of this creation stuff but got stuck in our own rules of godnes, meaning if we separate, we create the mess we allow and are trapped in our creation until we sort it out and because we are infinite we have lots of time to suffer until we wake up

See there is only us

I was sad too until I realized I would be so pissed of at any divine being just because baby abuse exist and nothing is done by the divine being that I will have a coronary.


So when I realize I am responsible then I will stand up and act .



God and Mind Illusions

Question:

If we are all equal and we are all gods then if we repeat to ourselves what we want to happen enough in our heads and picture it then it shall become truth and manifest.

So if I were to constantly think that I could live forever and nothing can harm me and there is nothing I can't do over and over again that is what I will be or that is what I really am but just haven't realized it yet.


Perspective:

Nope – you are not ‘god’ – god in the most limited idea constructed of and by imaginative minds that exist.

And naturally if you only picture or think up or imagine something within your mind, utilizing your mind – you will manifest a design of the mind which you believe to be you but is in actual fact a mindf**k, which will only last for so long as an idea of the mind can only be ‘fed’ for so long – then you’re back to square one where you realize that you’ve existed within an illusionary idea conjured up within your mind and have actually never really lived YOU.



Question:

So my intuition tells me that some point us gods who were all equal at one point tried to enslave some of us gods which makes them seem less equal and they installed systems and rules to make us seem less equal by removing some sort of cosmic knowledge or installing manipulation into our DNA in order to make slaves to serve gods that are just as equal as us. As long as these gods seperate us constantly from who we really are we will forever be gods running around lost trying to find meanings that are only brought to us from beings that are manipulating us which we are suppose to be letting happen.

So basically I'm just in some sort of dream world where I can change things if I want to because I'm already suppose to know how but can't use my mind because it's full of manipulative experiences.

ok so once I know all this where does that leave me, waiting for some sign, or waiting for me to wake up from something or until my mind is able to wake up?

What I'm trying to say is what am I suppose to be doing other then be in present time and if I'm always in present time how can I change the future? if there is even such thing as a future?

Perspective:

You’re trying to use your very mind to understand yourself, to make sense of yourself and this is impossible – by your very questions you ask, you have just absorbed knowledge and information of which you are trying to make sense of and haven’t yet actually applied yourself. For instance by focusing on your breathing, stopping the thoughts/feelings and emotions that come up within you in every moment of breath, applying self forgiveness for any reactions of the mind you experience within you, applying self corrective application in every moment as you through being self honest with you = not of the mind, writing etc. = because it is within these applications – you applying you – that self honesty emerge, within self honesty, self realization emerge, within self realization, self awareness emerge, within self awareness, self trust emerge, within self trust self expression emerge = meaning you as who you really are.

So, assist and support yourself through self application – to answer the question of ‘who you are’ for you – because it is impossible to realize you through reasoning /trying to make sense / equating it with your mind.

Here are examples of self forgiveness and self corrective application I suggest you have a look at – if you require further specifics – ask:

http://desteni.co.za/Osho/veno32.htm

http://desteni.co.za/Osho/veno31.htm