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Alice B.
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==Eating meat for Strength==
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2008

Pain

Questions

So what is happening when I get upper back and neck pain? It's in the zone that bridges the back to the neck and a little in the shoulders. Yep, it's a pain in the neck too.

Perspective

This specific area is 'related to' the 'manifestation system' of the experience of the words:


Anxiety Strain Fear Uncertainty Judgment Resistance


Where your breathing is within constant anxiety within you - so your focus /attention is on the anxiety you experience within you, which cause strain within your application together with fear of the uncertainty of whether your application is effective enough - which cause self judgment within you and then the inevitable resistance to actually apply yourself. So, it's a 'cycle' that manifests as a system because of mind / thought participation.

The 'main cause' of this is your 'anxiety towards others / other people' within your world: Your thoughts 'straining much' towards other human being's reactions within your world towards you because you are participating in this process. The question you have to ask yourself Rick is to ensure that you're doing this process for you, and you alone. Other human beings and their 'thoughts and their minds' are really irrelevant. At the moment you're allowing your mind to be preoccupied with what could/might possibly be occurring within other human being's mind's, which is a real mind fuck.

This is your individual process - really. Stop accepting/allowing you to be preoccupied with other human beings. I suggest you also have a look at the words above. Where within your world you are still accepting / allowing you to participate in such emotions without applying you effectively and stopping them immediately? Also, I suggest to have a look where and with whom, specifically within your world, you are still accepting / allowing you to react to, specifically related to the words mentioned above and apply self forgiveness accordingly. With each person you look at the following questions:

Why am I reacting towards this being? What do they represent to which I am reacting? What within them have I not yet accepted within me? What within them do I react to which I have not yet dealt with within me?

And so you answer the questions for yourself and apply self forgiveness. Then, you 'test' your self forgiveness application in their presence. If you still react, the self forgiveness is not specific and direct enough. And so you continue until you no longer react to human beings when you're in their presence.

Realize that they are you assisting and supporting you to show you where specific self application is still required.

Jack


Organ Transplants

Perspective

Organ transplants and donations etc., as with hospitals and the medical industries, exist because of fear of death, to prolong life.

Have a look at when human beings receive transplants, the experience they have during and afterwards, causing more pain, more discomfort than before. Why do you human beings put themselves through such traumatic experiences? In and out and in and out of hospitals, the money and everything else involved, it's so painful and unnecessary, but they'll put themselves through everything just to live longer because of fear of death.

It's amazing what human beings will 'live with' just to live longer, to prolong their lives. It's not a great experience to witness.

Therefore, we have to stop the mind to stop this reality and this world as the current way it's being accepted and allowed because this world supports the fear of the death of the mind.

So that no more such unnecessary suffering and pain may exist the mind must stop, this is NOT the way to live.

There is no need to fear death, you exist infinitely. I am, remain. I am here.

Veno


Using Pharmaceuticals as a Bridge for Support

Perspective

Understand that I gave the explanation, with regards to [hospitals] and the [medical industries] and [pharmaceuticals], so you may understand, see and realize why they currently exist in this world. Apply self forgiveness within you if you're still allowing the very existence thereof to influence you or control you in any way.

Though we are still in this world, occasionally we'll require a 'bridge' for a moment in this world in certain circumstances. Diane, you're an example of the requirement for a bridge and you understand that, which is cool.

Thus, when this 'bridge' is required, use it. There is nothing right/wrong about it. Make sure that you within yourself understand that this 'bridge' you are only using for a moment, until it is no longer required.

Set yourself free from everything of this world. Do not fear it, judge it, resist it or deny it. It is here and we work with what is here for a moment, until we stop when it's no longer required.

Veno


Laughter

Perspective

Did you laugh because you realized the ridiculousness of accepting and allowing such beliefs/perceptions of self influencing oneself?

Did you laugh as a protection/resistance mechanism used to not apply forgiveness?

Did you laugh because you realized that the exact same belief/perceptions of self exist within you?

Did you laugh as hidden judgment of the forgiveness words, thinking it not necessary to apply forgiveness?

Did you laugh through fear of facing you in application of forgiveness, therefore laugh in fear instead of applying forgiveness immediately.?

Where did the laughter originate from?

How did you experience the laughter?

Did you experience the laughter as the entirety of you or from a source within you?

What is laughter?

Where does laughter originate from?

Why do we laugh?

Is laughter an expression of me?

Is laughter a method used by the mind to hide instead of facing me?

Do I use laughter or is it an expression of me? See - all experiences of self must be looked at with absolute self honesty - thus assisting and supporting self in making sure in every moment: I am self honest with me as me.

Enjoy

Veno

Vegetarianism

Question

If we meat it is as if we are eating ourselves because all is one, and all supports all. Just as animals are alive, the same goes for vegetables because they are plants that live. So, we always end up eating something that was alive. I need some perspective on this please.

Perspective

Understand the following: One is able to say, “I am and will be vegetarian / vegan because I do not support animal slaughter in this world,” though, still - this is a method to make a statement - though still, it as this statement, will make no difference whether you eat meat or don't eat meat, because where is the actual cause and problem for such manifestations in this world towards animals? The mind's of human beings.

So, you make a statement of not supporting such manifestations towards animals by becoming a vegan / vegetarian, but what is not realized, is that it is each and every single human beings' very participation in their mind consciousness system, that is accepting and allowing such human beings of mind consciousness systems to exist within this world and their actions towards animals.

So, to really assist and support these animals, as you, stop your mind, stop accepting and allowing yourself to participate in the mind, stand up and say, “Till here no further, I no longer accept / allow the existence of the mind within me as me. I stand up and live and apply in every moment who I am as one as equal within and as self honesty. “

People think they're assisting and supporting the animals by being / becoming a vegan / vegetarian, making a statement within this world, when the actual cause and reason for such manifestations is your own mind. Here is the key, STOP your mind. This will be a process, yes, but start here as the breath, immediately.

And yes, everything is alive. Even the vegetables and greens as they are cut and cooked is alive. They experience everything. Even the meat in itself is still alive as it's being eaten. So, instead of standing within separation with what you eat, in the moment you eat, accept what you eat in that moment as you and eat with gratefulness and enjoy what you eat, assisting and supporting you to sustain your human physical body in this world for a moment, until this process is done.

So, whether you're vegan / vegetarian or not, it is about who you are in every moment. Do not accept / allow yourself to participate in the mind of the mind. The mind the very system assisting and supporting such actions towards animals within this world as we participate in the mind.

Faust

Perspective

What Faust was saying is the following: To stop what we have accepted and allowed in this world, we must take self responsibility and stop our own mind, and so each one must and so each one will, because each one has a mind and that consists of the conscious mind, the subconscious mind and the unconscious mind.

The unconscious mind is that which connects all human beings as minds together, which manifest the unified consciousness field. The unified consciousness field is the experience of all of humanity together within this world.

So, if you are participating in the mind as thoughts, feelings and emotions, thinking it is you, you fuel and generate the existence of your mind, and so the unified consciousness field as all of humanity together of this world, through the connection of your mind as your unconscious mind to all other human beings' minds.

So, in participating in the mind, you are allowing and accepting the mind to exist within and as all human beings, even those who slaughter animals with such brutality. So, Ann, it's okay if you make the statement in this world of not eating meat, but you must also live the statement within you, through stopping the mind, not accepting and allowing yourself to be of the mind, and it's a process of stopping the mind. So you remain here as the breath, remain self honest as you and apply self forgiveness as you live self corrective application, and so you take self responsibility and live the statement of you within you as you, of no longer supporting the mind, the mind which all human beings have come to believe and perceive themselves to be that has manifested the experience of all of humanity in this world, and so each will stand up for all as one as equal = to stop the mind.

Question

Earlier I said, “Killing animals is murder.” Why? Because I see animals as equal to humans and killing humans is called murder here. Now, the person I said it to told me I was judging him as a murderer. Am I doing this? I did not feel emotion or feeling when I was saying it.

Perspective

Yes, it is murder from the perspective that the being is actually doing what they are doing to themselves, killing themselves, murdering themselves, though, we have accepted and allowed this world, ourselves as all of humanity as each individual human being to be and become what we have, and the world has, as the experience of ourselves within it because of the mind.

So, it's not to judge the being as the murderer as wrong / in blame by seeing yourself separate from the being saying it's his/her problem/fault, the being acting / participating in this world in such a way is of the mind, they are the mind as the mind and the very mind of that being as what that being has accepted and allowed themselves to become, each and every single individual human being is accepting and allowing, because of participation in their own mind, which continues the existence of their unconscious mind, and through the unconscious mind assisting and supporting all other mind's to continue to exist because we fuel the mind through participation in the mind and thus fuel this entire mind creation as the world we experience ourselves within.

Ann, as you go through the material, you will see, understand and realize how the mind works, and how each individual human being must take responsibility for themselves and stop their own mind, to stop what we have accepted and allowed within existence through participation in the mind as the mind.

This does not make you a bad person Ann, you are not your mind, it's not who you are. You as who you are within and as oneness and equality will not accept / allow such manifestations within you or within creation as you. So, live the statement as the expression of who you are within you Ann, and stop the mind, discover and live the expression of you within and as oneness and equality as who you are, to live as an example, so all may see / realize they must also take self responsibility and stop the mind.

Alice B.

Eating Meat for Strength

Question

So when the person tells me, “I eat meat because in the bible God made me notice that animals are there to nourish me” and/or “I am a bodybuilder, meat makes me strong” or “I want to be strong so I am able to protect my family,” what would your response be to that?

Perspective

My response would be, “I am not dependent on meat for strength, I am strength. Your definition of strength is of separation, based on the physical, your human physical body does not require strength from meat, only nourishment as food that is provided. “

Veno

Perspective

Enjoy food provided by Nature. As you do, nurture and sustain your human physical body. When all is one and equal within existence as the manifested expression and experience of who we are as all as one as equal, when this process is done, eating will not be required. Until then, we're in this world, so enjoy what you eat within and as gratefulness as you.

Veno

Perspective

Nothing in this world, well, most foods provided through industries and corporations within this world is of its natural essence, and that which the foods consists of, can and will only affect you if you fear it, are concerned about it or worry about it. So as is suggested, realize that that which you eat is you, assisting and supporting you to exist in this world. Until this process is done, realize that it's not the food as what it looks like or what's in it of this world, but the essence of the food you eat as you. Even if you must, close your eyes and as you chew, realize that which you're eating is you. One and equal.

No, Faust didn't indicate a physical action as an exertion of you out on this world, he indicated that it's not just about saying, I'm not going to eat meat and then you stop eating meat, it is also to realize that you require to live a statement in application as you through stopping the mind within you, because it's the mind in itself, well, your participation within and as it, that assist and support the continuation of this world as is within and throughout the unified consciousness field. It's all about who you are within you, you want to stop this world and no longer accept and allow what we have done and become. You stop your mind.

Whether you eat meat or don't eat meat, it doesn't make a difference and is in itself, to a certain extent, irrelevant, what is relevant is you, the process of you stopping the mind, taking self responsibility. Because it is here in stopping the mind, that you stop what has been accepted and allowed within this world.

Elvis P.