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==A history of Spiritual Deception from After Life== | |||
http://desteni.org/a/uersti-a-history-of-spiritual-deception-from-after-life | |||
Uersti – A history of Spiritual Deception from AfterLife | |||
Transcribed and typed by Uersti through the interdimensional portal | |||
=Suicide and Cross Over= | |||
=Suicide and Cross | |||
No need to worry about those that pass over--they are fine and in their process to find self honesty as life | No need to worry about those that pass over--they are fine and in their process to find self honesty as life | ||
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That is also the reason why our interviews will change to focus on points that assist self realization | That is also the reason why our interviews will change to focus on points that assist self realization | ||
Thanks for your support--i noticed your presence in the process. | Thanks for your support--i noticed your presence in the process. | ||
==Is there a different fate for those who commits suicide vs. someone who dies naturally? Facing self after death== | |||
=====Question===== | |||
Suicide. i've thought too often of suicide now and in too much detail, and 'hidden' motivation to do this for sometime. getting to points where i really wanted to just do it. i have thought really hard in some occasions. i figured just now, that my end will be a suicide, inevitably. i see me in the future fucked as i am now only worse-- with absolutely nothing but the world i fucked over. i say to myself about 20 times a day: "i want to die" "I dont want to be here anymore" "Why" "kill me" "just fucking kill me" i'm really freaked out by this happening for so long and it getting more intense and more consistent and real | |||
=====Perspective===== | |||
Suicide is only contemplated by those unwilling to be self responsible that require some form of a savior and that have conditions they desire to be fulfilled before they become self honest as life | |||
that is why all suicides now incarnate as lady bugs to experience the helplessness when they are used as the food for those that plant eggs inside them --to understand that false helplessness is only self spitefulness | |||
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=====Question===== | |||
Quote: | |||
Is it true that anything (sins) that anybody does during their life time on earth does not crossover to the dimensions? | |||
=====Perspective===== | |||
It was like that before - now - no. | |||
When you cross-over - you are faced with all of you that you have become here on earth as a mind consciousness system - you 'walk through' processes of self forgiveness and self application - to take responsibility for yourself. So that you may realise, understand and become aware of who you are so you may stand within and as human beings and direct, support and assist them as you as one with you to realise who they are as life within and as oneness and equality. | |||
There's no escaping what each human being have accepted and allowed themselves to become - there's no hiding and there's no running away - you're coming face to face with you - whether here or in the dimensions - to stand up and take self responsibility to no more accept and allow the mind - but stand and live as life. | |||
Veno | |||
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=====Question===== | |||
Quote: | |||
The shit in this world is gonna get real bad. I'd love to stay and be a part of the show, but I would like to be in the audience for once. I think checking out is the best thing anyone can do to get out of this living hell on earth. Cho got it right, go out with a bang. Anyone who disagrees with me may come forward. | |||
Will I die in the Dimensions? Do I got time in the dimensions? If I don't die, and if I've got forever to become free from the systems that Anu placed in me, then I'll go there. Fuck college. Fuck religion. Fuck Government. Fuck this world. As long as I've got time, and as long as it is possible to become free, time in the dimensions is no opposition to anyone. As long as I can get there | |||
=====Perspective===== | |||
You don't want to remove yourself from this world - every being that has crossed over and I mean every single one that has removed themselves from this world has experienced the most deepest profound regret and shame imaginable. | |||
See - I 'meet' the beings the moment they 'cross-over' - and every single one that has crossed over and removed themselves from this world has regretted it - extensively - and their having to 'make peace' with the fact that: Okay - I'm here now and I am not able to return to my life as was as I left it and get a 'second chance' or opportunity - is extremely difficult for them. | |||
Why? Because they couldn't believe that they allowed such a fallible, frail thing as the mind system to influence them to the 'point' where they considered and allowed themselves to remove themselves from this world. | |||
I do not 'wish' that experience for you - if you 'think' or 'perceive' what you're experiencing now is 'bad' and 'too difficult' to 'live with' - man - you haven't yet experienced the most deepest mournful sorrow of regret and shame for taking your own life. | |||
And that regret stays within you - because you'll always remember what you have allowed - you have allowed the mind - a system to have power and control over you. | |||
Removing yourself because of the mind - not acceptable. You giving up your opportunity to birth yourself as life from the physical within and as oneness and equality because of the mind - unacceptable. | |||
It is 1000 fold more difficult and intense in the dimensions - there doesn't exist stability - and to stabilize yourself in the dimensions - that self trust as you - is not simple and takes a very, very, very long time it the dimensions to stand as self stability and self trust - making sure in every moment that your expression is of life within and as oneness and equality and not of an alternate reality you have created and designed. | |||
You are only able to birth yourself as life from the physical - you are not able to do this in the dimensions. | |||
You 'think' you're running away or getting out - but actually you are running full steam towards the very 'thing' you are attempting to run away from in even considering removing yourself from this world. Because in the dimensions - you still face yourself - more extensively than here - there's no hiding, no running away, no quick exit - it doesn't exist - you will face yourself and everything you are experiencing now - whether here or in the dimensions - the dimensions it is tough, extremely difficult - here on earth - much, much, much simpler - very much so. | |||
Thus - I would suggest you face yourself here - apply self forgiveness, apply self honesty in every moment - because what you stated above are words of the mind - and not as life within and as oneness and equality. Stop the mind and do not allow it to control you. Pull up your socks and stand up - do not allow yourself to be 'subject' to the mind. | |||
There is no easy way out - there is no quick exit - there is no hiding - there is no running away. So I suggest you start applying yourself in this moment - self forgiveness - there are examples of self forgiveness on the forum - though if you require any specific self forgiveness applications - let me know and I'll give you a start. | |||
Walk this process here and get it done. You have dimensional support with you in every moment and you have plenty of support and assistance here - so - get your ass in gear and stand up and start. | |||
I do not want to see you in the dimensions - you are not welcome here. I will send you back no matter what - you will make it here whatever it takes - I am the 'gatekeeper' of the dimensions - I will send your ass right back because you have no excuse to want to remove yourself - or allow the mind to control and have power over you: THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. | |||
So - let me know what forgiveness applications you require - what you experience within you - give me words and I'll give you self forgiveness direction so you may take your own power and direct yourself. | |||
Veno | |||
_____________________________________________________________ | |||
=====Question===== | |||
Perspective on: We wish to cease our existence | |||
=====Perspective===== | |||
That would be abdicating your responsibility towards you. What must be understood is that we have existed for eons of time and have participated in this existence for eons of time, at the moment – we are here. Thus – each one of us is individually responsible for what we have become and existence as ourselves have become – and thus, in taking self responsibility for ourselves, to stand up and stop what we have accepted and allowed to exist within ourselves and exist within existence as ourselves: We stand up as who we are as all as one as equal as life. | |||
==Courage== | |||
I love this--expression--remember--this is why we are here--to express==and then when we find another expression--we express-- and we forgive and we wonder--are the lurkers crinching--are they applying --are they judging | |||
courage is expression | |||
we all have seen the "love is..." scatter cushions | |||
now the courage series | |||
courage is speaking you mind | |||
courage is forgiveness | |||
courage is honesty | |||
courage is trust | |||
courage is pain | |||
courage is intimacy | |||
courage is selfrcognition | |||
courage is clawing my way out of the dark pit of the mind | |||
courage is integrating my mind and directing it | |||
courage is alone | |||
courage is stretching out my hand to move me | |||
courage is moving | |||
courage is saying "no more" | |||
courage is crying | |||
courage is laughing | |||
courage is me | |||
courage is love | |||
courage is living words | |||
courage is aware | |||
courage is here as me | |||
courage is no more fear | |||
courage isgentleness | |||
courage is rage as a river raging tumbling down the rabbitt whole and being Alice in a world of reverses and mirrors | |||
courage is not knowing the next moment | |||
courage is no more past | |||
courage is present as myself | |||
courage is selfexpression to face my world | |||
courage is why we are here |
Latest revision as of 23:53, 18 February 2012
2008
Support Videos
Forum Desteni Support - What happens if I suppress myself, my thoughts, feelings, emotions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-FE-0mzN84
Forum Desteni Support - How does Self-Forgiveness work and How do I know I'm effective? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U0imdVJHrE
Practical Consequences of Suicide in the Afterlife
David Hans Schmidt from Heaven - My Suicide
Marcus--My Suicide -Vlogs from AFTER LIFE
Ronald "Bo" Ward:AfterLife-- My CrossOver- My Suicide?
History of Man 61 -- Exposing DEPRESSION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vuv62hnj5E
The DESIGN of LONELINESS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxKuGwynLb8
The DESIGN of ANXIETY in Solar Plexus
The DESIGN of GUILT as ENTRAPMENT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abK-ADDlF74
Solution Series
AA 1 from Afterlife: Many Lives and still NO ANSWER
AA 2 from Afterlife: Destroying Life Because I Find no Point Chris Benoit from BEYOND THE GRAVE 1 of 3
Chris Benoit from BEYOND THE GRAVE 2 of 3 Chris Benoit from BEYOND THE GRAVE 3 of 3 Kurt Cobain 1 from the Afterlife: Desteni
Kurt Cobain 2 from the Afterlife: Desteni http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nnn67wD7lQ
Kurt Cobain 3 from the Afterlife: Desteni This is ED - Part 1 of 2 on ANGER - Vlogs from the AFTER LIFE
This is ED - Part 2 of 2 on ANGER - Vlogs from the AFTER LIFE
DIY Anger Management to prevent Violence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwsIjwhT5A0
The DESIGN of the WIFE BEATER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biUSANfC3a0
The DESIGN of ANIMAL CRUELTY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyJRLeDz9kc
Leticia Wright 1 - Abused child - from HEAVEN
History of Man 58 -- Reptilians and Child Abuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAagMOfJmNI
Child Abuse Demon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2BdvKyfS8
Chat with an AK-47 Assault Rifle (A perspective on where anger originate from)
A history of Spiritual Deception from After Life
http://desteni.org/a/uersti-a-history-of-spiritual-deception-from-after-life
Uersti – A history of Spiritual Deception from AfterLife
Transcribed and typed by Uersti through the interdimensional portal
Suicide and Cross Over
No need to worry about those that pass over--they are fine and in their process to find self honesty as life
it is more pronounced for suicides--as they have to face what they ran from--their own separation from self as life
At this stage the dimensions are in very intensive self reflection --Understand that most of a being is no more upon death as the mind no longer exist and only sound exist as self
In itself it is difficult for us on earth to understand--but the very reason that we are unable to readily and consistently communicate to the dimensions as all of us--is enough to realise--we have very little real insight in what makes the total reality tick
We are investigating ways to be able to assist beings to become more effective upon death--this though is complex due to the no space no time situation the dead find themselves in--as that cause multi dimensional possibilities based on perceptions
be sure though that each being is taken care of
On passing--each is contained and clear of any earth system debris--then the being become universally aware as all knowledge of all time and all existence--this cause a quantum realisation of the bigger picture--
then the being enter a process of self forgiveness and self reflection on all past lives of all beings that has ever been to understand how we got to this position on earth--then the being are tested as to self honesty as life--and may incarnate or will assist the process of all in the journey to one and equal
we no longer do any readings with cross overs--we did many over the last few years--all experience exactly the same and it cause a problem where we are so swamped with requests--we do not get effectively to our primary focus--to find practical ways to assist humans to realize common sense and self honesty as life
That is also the reason why our interviews will change to focus on points that assist self realization Thanks for your support--i noticed your presence in the process.
Is there a different fate for those who commits suicide vs. someone who dies naturally? Facing self after death
Question
Suicide. i've thought too often of suicide now and in too much detail, and 'hidden' motivation to do this for sometime. getting to points where i really wanted to just do it. i have thought really hard in some occasions. i figured just now, that my end will be a suicide, inevitably. i see me in the future fucked as i am now only worse-- with absolutely nothing but the world i fucked over. i say to myself about 20 times a day: "i want to die" "I dont want to be here anymore" "Why" "kill me" "just fucking kill me" i'm really freaked out by this happening for so long and it getting more intense and more consistent and real
Perspective
Suicide is only contemplated by those unwilling to be self responsible that require some form of a savior and that have conditions they desire to be fulfilled before they become self honest as life
that is why all suicides now incarnate as lady bugs to experience the helplessness when they are used as the food for those that plant eggs inside them --to understand that false helplessness is only self spitefulness
_________________________________________________________________________________________________
Question
Quote: Is it true that anything (sins) that anybody does during their life time on earth does not crossover to the dimensions?
Perspective
It was like that before - now - no.
When you cross-over - you are faced with all of you that you have become here on earth as a mind consciousness system - you 'walk through' processes of self forgiveness and self application - to take responsibility for yourself. So that you may realise, understand and become aware of who you are so you may stand within and as human beings and direct, support and assist them as you as one with you to realise who they are as life within and as oneness and equality.
There's no escaping what each human being have accepted and allowed themselves to become - there's no hiding and there's no running away - you're coming face to face with you - whether here or in the dimensions - to stand up and take self responsibility to no more accept and allow the mind - but stand and live as life.
Veno
Question
Quote: The shit in this world is gonna get real bad. I'd love to stay and be a part of the show, but I would like to be in the audience for once. I think checking out is the best thing anyone can do to get out of this living hell on earth. Cho got it right, go out with a bang. Anyone who disagrees with me may come forward.
Will I die in the Dimensions? Do I got time in the dimensions? If I don't die, and if I've got forever to become free from the systems that Anu placed in me, then I'll go there. Fuck college. Fuck religion. Fuck Government. Fuck this world. As long as I've got time, and as long as it is possible to become free, time in the dimensions is no opposition to anyone. As long as I can get there
Perspective
You don't want to remove yourself from this world - every being that has crossed over and I mean every single one that has removed themselves from this world has experienced the most deepest profound regret and shame imaginable.
See - I 'meet' the beings the moment they 'cross-over' - and every single one that has crossed over and removed themselves from this world has regretted it - extensively - and their having to 'make peace' with the fact that: Okay - I'm here now and I am not able to return to my life as was as I left it and get a 'second chance' or opportunity - is extremely difficult for them.
Why? Because they couldn't believe that they allowed such a fallible, frail thing as the mind system to influence them to the 'point' where they considered and allowed themselves to remove themselves from this world.
I do not 'wish' that experience for you - if you 'think' or 'perceive' what you're experiencing now is 'bad' and 'too difficult' to 'live with' - man - you haven't yet experienced the most deepest mournful sorrow of regret and shame for taking your own life.
And that regret stays within you - because you'll always remember what you have allowed - you have allowed the mind - a system to have power and control over you.
Removing yourself because of the mind - not acceptable. You giving up your opportunity to birth yourself as life from the physical within and as oneness and equality because of the mind - unacceptable.
It is 1000 fold more difficult and intense in the dimensions - there doesn't exist stability - and to stabilize yourself in the dimensions - that self trust as you - is not simple and takes a very, very, very long time it the dimensions to stand as self stability and self trust - making sure in every moment that your expression is of life within and as oneness and equality and not of an alternate reality you have created and designed.
You are only able to birth yourself as life from the physical - you are not able to do this in the dimensions.
You 'think' you're running away or getting out - but actually you are running full steam towards the very 'thing' you are attempting to run away from in even considering removing yourself from this world. Because in the dimensions - you still face yourself - more extensively than here - there's no hiding, no running away, no quick exit - it doesn't exist - you will face yourself and everything you are experiencing now - whether here or in the dimensions - the dimensions it is tough, extremely difficult - here on earth - much, much, much simpler - very much so.
Thus - I would suggest you face yourself here - apply self forgiveness, apply self honesty in every moment - because what you stated above are words of the mind - and not as life within and as oneness and equality. Stop the mind and do not allow it to control you. Pull up your socks and stand up - do not allow yourself to be 'subject' to the mind.
There is no easy way out - there is no quick exit - there is no hiding - there is no running away. So I suggest you start applying yourself in this moment - self forgiveness - there are examples of self forgiveness on the forum - though if you require any specific self forgiveness applications - let me know and I'll give you a start.
Walk this process here and get it done. You have dimensional support with you in every moment and you have plenty of support and assistance here - so - get your ass in gear and stand up and start.
I do not want to see you in the dimensions - you are not welcome here. I will send you back no matter what - you will make it here whatever it takes - I am the 'gatekeeper' of the dimensions - I will send your ass right back because you have no excuse to want to remove yourself - or allow the mind to control and have power over you: THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
So - let me know what forgiveness applications you require - what you experience within you - give me words and I'll give you self forgiveness direction so you may take your own power and direct yourself.
Veno
_____________________________________________________________
Question
Perspective on: We wish to cease our existence
Perspective
That would be abdicating your responsibility towards you. What must be understood is that we have existed for eons of time and have participated in this existence for eons of time, at the moment – we are here. Thus – each one of us is individually responsible for what we have become and existence as ourselves have become – and thus, in taking self responsibility for ourselves, to stand up and stop what we have accepted and allowed to exist within ourselves and exist within existence as ourselves: We stand up as who we are as all as one as equal as life.
Courage
I love this--expression--remember--this is why we are here--to express==and then when we find another expression--we express-- and we forgive and we wonder--are the lurkers crinching--are they applying --are they judging
courage is expression
we all have seen the "love is..." scatter cushions
now the courage series
courage is speaking you mind
courage is forgiveness
courage is honesty
courage is trust
courage is pain
courage is intimacy
courage is selfrcognition
courage is clawing my way out of the dark pit of the mind
courage is integrating my mind and directing it
courage is alone
courage is stretching out my hand to move me
courage is moving
courage is saying "no more"
courage is crying
courage is laughing
courage is me
courage is love
courage is living words
courage is aware
courage is here as me
courage is no more fear
courage isgentleness
courage is rage as a river raging tumbling down the rabbitt whole and being Alice in a world of reverses and mirrors
courage is not knowing the next moment
courage is no more past
courage is present as myself
courage is selfexpression to face my world
courage is why we are here