Enlightenment/Spirituality/Ascension
2007
How to work with Spiritual Teachings/Writings Support Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0bXTz5EcQo
The Tao and contraction cycles
Question:
Your saying that "this is the 11th time" rang a bell for me - in one of the latest articles on the Spiritual School of Ascension site, it also mentions that there have been previous times when Creation did not return properly in the "inbreath of the Creator", and parts were left behind (they say "twelve or more times", but its the same principle, I guess).
Quote:
"So what has occurred in the Tao to create consumption? It appears that groups and groups of creators have been left behind in 12 or more contraction cycles, and these creators have continued to exist between cycles, and in order to do so have to consume creations to have enough chi to continue to exist without the chi of the Tao. The Tao provides chi to all creators and creations, except between contraction cycles. Somehow that which was left behind forgot to return home and fell into the pattern of consuming in order to save chi for between the cycles to survive. Those creations or parts of creations that are consumed then fall into the same forgetfulness as those who are lost, creating increasing numbers of lost creators that consume; to a point that if it is not rectified, the Tao may be consumed to death in five or less cycles ahead. So the Tao of the future is working back in time to rectify a circumstance that went unnoticed until it threatened all of existence."
Perspective:
Even the Tao is consciousness--It is just a way to place an understandable construct within the understanding of self that is based on the principle of life being born from the physical--this implies that life never existed yet as life itself in a way
That is what we found--much cannot be revealed yet as it would cause another construct--so call it the in breath-- which is again a construct that will have to be let go of even forgiveness will assist
Life is--that is has been most graciously expounded on by the work on Tao
The School of ascension work with very limited insight as they were specifically misled by an unconscious mind implant system--this was run by an Atlantean called Mila--this then is represented as all kinds of beings presenting "truth" with a lot true--but the spill--the core is always misrepresented
This was the way organizations were formed to trap the serious seekers in separation--instead of self
That was the reason for Ascension--we even found such heaven where the ascended went to--yet this was removed in one moment--so much for all those that spend lifetimes on these ideas--consciousness interdimensionally are removed in one moment
Understand that something more is going on than what has ever been revealed-- the secret is Man-- Man is "God"--yet must proof it universally and "power" is not what man understand it to be--it is not spirit, or love or anything ever taught--power cannot be taught
See--we do not present an answer--we present an way to an answer--but only self honesty will open the door--absolute
How do we know--and this is important-- how do we know that the experience of a channel is real or not-- they must either leave the body aware and be tested intensely in all facets and with all beings in creation to establish what is real--there must be no separate conscious, subconscious and unconscious that they may see direct--there may be no "energy " fluctuations--that means--the channel may not get tired --20 hours non stop channeling--beings randomly throughout all "time"--the channel must be able to handle all levels of possession like demons--satan--anything at any time-- the channel must be able to see all direct and be present in each conversation and be able to access anything-any "dimension to investigate the information as real and that must be randomly checked to make sure it is consistent-- the channel must be waked up in the middle of the night and immediately all must be consistent and constant-- the channel must be given illness like aids in one moment at DNA level and transcend it--physical aliment must manifest on the body of the channel and be corrected interdimensionally as prove of self directedness-- the channel when in the dimensions must be faced with all imaginable tests--like disappearing into nothing and bring self together again--and more and more
This is some tests winged went through before we stared presenting any work--understand what winged experience--I do too--I remain the point that cross-reference--so is there Andrea--we test all the time--so is there others not yet named--all are tested in similar ways--we are very strict--because we are presenting a message that is not acceptable--it had to be proven--It took 18 months of 14-16 hours a day o testing and challenging--we had some that could not pass the tests--because of honesty with self--
so we heard all the excuses of consciousness--imagine a girl taking on the Universal Mind to find that it deceive--things we have placed our faith and trust in--and when something deceives--it is confirmed consciousness--and thus is removable--call this the second death--there is such a point--the first death on earth --and the second-- when one chose consciousness and separation in stead of assistance--death again--the end
This is only so because life does not yet exist as form manifest--even nature is compromised
So--some insight in what winged and others went through--In that process the portal and others with abilities--were closed if any form of deceit manifest--yes--we open and close portals in a moment--it is not a gift--it is a placement
Much will reveal as we move
be certain-we are no fools
before a post is done here--we check the being thoroughly--we know when you die, how , why--all is revealed-- so--when we assist--know this--we assist you as ourselves--what we would have liked if we were you and did not yet understand--we assess to give each the best opportunity
Obviously--it is not the only way--we know that--we can give you another as well--but it is the most direct way with the least pain and suffering--but know this--all is going to suffer--we allow atrocities to be called life
let us have fun on the way
Hope this give some perspective on winged--I dare any channel in the world to come and be tested--even just 3 months and prove that what they present is true--there is not one--they are all system manifestations--we even go into their system when they speak--if we take the system out--the being will die--so--we have to be patient with the BS--and challenge them--forgiveness and self honesty
Gifts and Abilities
Question
Would it be possible for you to tell me what are my gifts and abilities? Also if you can visit me by astral projection?
Perspective=
Realize that within this process of self forgiveness – you are giving you to you, thus gifting you to yourself, and together with self forgiveness applying self corrective application in every moment of breath, in living self honesty, self trust and self expression – to so become self aware of you as ‘who you are’ here as you participate in this world. There are no such thing as ‘special abilities or gifts’ – because it’s not about the abilities or gifts - but who YOU are, in assisting and supporting you to stand one and equal as life so we can stop what we have accepted and allowed to exist within this world as ourselves. Don’t accept/allow you to define ‘who you are’ according to ‘gifts’ / ‘abilities’ as this would be separation.
No – no ‘astral projection’ required – ‘astral projection’ is still a mind-designed constructed system, so astral projection is but a alternate reality programmed within human beings minds’ so human beings believe or perceive themselves to ‘project themselves astrally’ – but actually still remain within their own mind.
I suggest you focus on you, in assisting and supporting you within your individual process of stopping the mind, to manifest you as the living expression of life as all as one as equal.
Vibrational Alchemy and Remote Controlled Information
Question
I've understood some "vibratory alchemy" things that I was studying since it didn't mean to invoke or invoke spiritual beings. By the way, I talked about some information I understand, it's as if someone remote controlled information to come to me without I ever asked for them. And finally, it don't know such things as white light but there is no one that could preserve me from doing what ever I please but my self so... It's just that I'm a down to earth, educated atheist that is confronted to something that I do not understand If you know anyone who's into stuff called magick, and knows about Aleister Crowley and his concept of "conversation with the holy guardian angel" I would just like to know what comes next. By he way do never forget that I'm a real skeptic and am not even convinced of my own experiences even if I know for sure that they are for real
Perspective
We suggest stopping and focus on what is necessary to be done here within this world.
An unexpected, unpredictable and sudden change has taken place within this existence: The dimensions and dimensional beings no more exists – they are in this moment one and equal as life, their process is done and is no longer part of this process here on earth, therefore – no more ‘individual expression as ‘individual dimensional beings’ exists as all are one and equal as life.
Thus, all that is in process is what is here within and as this physical manifested universe: The earth, nature, animal kingdom, human beings, planets, stars – even the cup you drink coffee from, your sunglasses, the steering wheel of a car, the wheels of a car – everything that exists within this physical manifested universe is aware – as you are aware – yet in this process
Past Lives and seeing the Future
Question:
If I sent you a picture of myself to you,would you know about my past lives and my Future?
Perspective:
Don’t require a picture – for you as me is here within and as me. Though understand this: Your past lives is entirely irrelevant to ‘who you are here’ within this moment and is also of no relevance to the experience of you within this world, your world within which you participate. Past lives is what it says: PAST – the interdimensional existence have removed all past-life influences and constructs within human beings – so that all that is required for you to transcend within you is your mind-system design you developed within and as you as what you have come to believe yourself to be, as ‘who you are’ = for this life only. Here’s a forum, discussion topic that’ll give further perspective:
Question by Forum member (quote): ‘ It just dawned on me....it was mentioned that the reincarnation business pre desteni was all a huge fuck up, to the extent we were all living the same lives over and over and over again. Imagine that!! So no wonder that when i now have to face myself and all my actions and emotions, feelings, thoughts etc in this life then it is compounded from lots of other lives...no wonder it is hard work! This must be the same for all of us... Like jack said..just to transcend ONE issue or point if you like would take 100.000 lives 'the old way'. Well..the choice is easy...I'd like it over with now thank you very much. No wonder it's like an onion...layer upon layer... All of a sudden I'm not so hard on myself anymore....think we've done pretty good most of us in just a months or so!’
Response as perspective given (quote): ‘That’s how human beings’ experience within the White Light System/Construct was ‘laid out’ in space and time – through multiple and multiple lives – ‘you’ would be scattered – both in past lives and in current life and in future life experiences. Where beings would go life after life after life – ‘learning apparent lessons’, ‘paying (Karma) for previous lives’ mistakes’, ‘searching’ and seeking for themselves…
So – what we did was the following: We stood within and as human beings – then brought all of them, meaning all of each and every single human beings’ past life experiences, current life experiences and also future preprogrammed life experiences, of their current life experience to one singular point within and as human beings: Here.
Therefore bringing everything of each and every single human being, to one singular ‘point’ within and as them – which is: Here – in this moment, in this life experience which they are currently within.
This was done to ‘allocate’ each human being within existence, because ‘parts’ of human beings were ‘scattered’ all over existence!
Why do this: Because when we bring all of human beings to one ‘point’, to one singular ‘point’, which is here, within and as human beings – you’re able to ‘find’ their current ‘allocation’ within existence.
This allocation would be: Who and what this human being, currently in this life have accepted and allowed themselves to become as a mind consciousness structural resonance system – because of and together with all the other previous lives and also future pre-programmed life experiences, still to come, which exist within and as their mind consciousness system placement.
Then discernment: Meaning – what is required within and as this being to ‘remain’ (which is all that they have accepted and allowed themselves to be equal and one with as per mind consciousness systems/constructs which had become the mind consciousness structural resonance system to which they have defined ‘who they are’ within the system) for the necessity of their process of self revelation and self realisation as who they really are as life.
That which we knew human beings could not handle or ‘deal with’ – we removed.
See we removed as much as possible within human beings and left as little as possible, for each and every single human being to transcend as they continue and experience themselves within and during their processes.
Therefore: That which currently remain within human beings is all that was/is necessary for them to transcend, is all that they are indeed able to handle and ‘deal with’ to assist and support themselves in birthing themselves as life from the physical as who we really are.
And that’s why this is and will be each and every single human beings’ last life – because all of each and every single human being is here, within them as them as only that which is necessary and required to transcend within and as themselves for self revelation and self realisation as who they really are: To birth themselves as life from the physical to manifest heaven as earth as the expression of who we really are.’
So, it is to not exist within the past, present (referred to as the ‘now’) or future, it is to be HERE with you within and as breath and live self honestly in every moment. And within this – you determine the experience of you yourself HERE in every moment of breath – within the video interviews and material on the site you will come to understand that existing in the past, present and future is existing within the mind as the mind is that which exist within a ‘time-line’ frame – which enslave you to the past and enslave you to the future by keeping you in the present (the ‘now’). So – it’s to ‘set you free’ from fear of the future and judgment of the past and confusion of the present – to not exist in ‘time’ – but self freedom in self expression HERE with YOU as BREATH.
Here is a document I’d suggest reading that’ll assist:
http://www.desteni.co.za/Osho/Osho4.htm (The Power of Here vs. The Power of Now)
Further perspective:
The past life as a current life pattern still exist as the layer that allowed this existence to evolve as a unified field.
The interaction of that interdimensionally have been stopped.
The mind though will re image anything possible to remain enslaved. This is the reason it was removed, but as we are creators with little suggestion, we may recreate it in the mind and will accordingly time loop thus the being will get better and then face the same point later.
Thus the reason for the stop.
The breath
Self forgiveness
Self honesty
and to be a portal - to change definitively and not accept this reality as it is currently functioning as it keeps us enslaved by our very belief in things, because in our belief we create it in the pre-cognitive stage of self presence as the now of self