Process of Self

Decision and the Self-Application of the Decision to walk in Self-Honesty using the tools of Self-Forgiveness, Self-Writing, Breath and Common Sense to change to a self-satisfied, responsible, trustworthy, firmly standing being of Life.

2007

Practical Self Questioning Guide to put the Process of Self into further context

When I look at myself, I stand as Life as all as one as equal - and in this I see all others as myself as Life equal and one. Then I look at the design of myself as a 'person' - and in Self Honesty investigate all I have accepted and defined myself as, as a 'person' - to see what I am Allowing / supporting. Do I as all of the accepted experiences, definitions, and designs of myself as a 'person' support what is best for all as Life Equal and One as Me? Or do I as a 'person' support separation through seeing myself only as a 'person' as definitions and designs of self interest within a bubble?

Translation of Tablet found in Gobi Desert

Quote:

The great CAUSE or DIRECTIVE PRINCIPLE saw his son the CHRIST, the perfect man. He said, This is the LORD (authority) GOD, the LAW of MY BEING to whom I have given dominion over heaven and earth and all that in them is; and this perfect ONE need not be in bondage to any mortal concept, as my PERFECT IDEAL is raised above any bondage and has the same power and dominion that I have. Thus I speak through the LORD GOD my BEING.

It is not any command that I give unto you, except if you co-operate with ME in the DIVINE CREATIVE WILL, you will have need for no other and you will set up no graven image before ME or yourself. Thus you will not call images gods; but you will know that you are GOD in whom I AM well pleased, and you have the same dominion that I have. Now come close up to me, my son; amalgamate (blend) with me, and I AM yourself, and together we are GOD. Your body is the GOD-BODY which is idealized and which is in existence before the human race was ever projected into form. This is humanity's being, God creation. All humanity have this perfect form and image if they will but accept this true image/form. This is the temple of GOD that belongs to man and is complete for man.

You will not make any graven (impressed) image or any likeness that is in heaven or earth or in the waters of the earth. You will not make any substance into any image or idol; for all creative substances is yours to use, pressed out to you in fullest measure. You will not bow down to any created things nor will you serve them; and thus there will not be any jealous thing, nor will there be any sin or any iniquity that may be visited upon any of your children unto any generation; for you will stand steadfast with your eyes always fixed upon the cause, and therefore your ideal of that cause cannot diminish. Thus you will show forth the same love that I manifest for you.

You will honor this CAUSE OR DIRECTIVE PRINCIPLE, knowing that it is your FATHER and MOTHER and your days will be greater than the grains of sand upon the seashore which are without number.

You will not wish to hurt or destroy or kill, for the creatures are your creations; they are your sons, your brothers, and you will love them as I do.

You will not commit adultery/deception, as whatever you will have done unto your father, your mother, your brother, your sister or your loved one; for they are loved of the CAUSE as the CAUSE loves you.

You will not steal any beings true power or form to give yourself more power over another or thus enslave another, for you but steal from the CAUSE and if you steal from the CAUSE, you but steal from yourself.

You will not bear false witness against any creation, for in so doing; you bear false witness against the CAUSE which is yourself.

You will not covet/desire anything for in so doing; you but covet the CAUSE which is yourself. By holding yourself one with the CAUSE, you have that which is perfect and is truly yours.

Thus you will not make images of silver or gold (money) to worship as gods, but seeing yourself as one with all things pure, you are always pure.

Then you will not fear, for no GOD, save yourself, will come to prove you; as you will know that the CAUSE - not personal but impersonal - is for all and fully envelopes all.

Then you will erect an altar and, on that altar, you will build and always keep burning the undying fire, not of gods, but of the DIRECTIVE PRINCIPLE which is GOD. You behold yourself, the CHRIST, the perfect, the only begotten of the TRUE PRINCIPLE or CAUSE.

Knowing this fully, you may speak forth the word (GOD) and that word becomes visible. You are the creation and the CREATOR, around, above, below, within, ONE with the DIVINE PRINCIPLE - CAUSE, GOD.

The heavens obey GOD's voice, the silent voice of GOD speaking through man. GOD speaks. Man speaks. God always speaks through man. Thus when man speaks, GOD speaks.

Desteni Perspective:

As this directive principle we are equal and one, yet to be it as self-amalgamation as equality and oneness to be here in every breath as self. The book's called life and teachings of the masters of the far east and came out in the early 1900's

I want to start new and wish I can change the decisions I made

Perspective:

You're able to do this - in the following way: You 'go back' within you - 'look at the memories of your life experience' and apply self-forgiveness and release them. Because what you're doing is allowing / accepting the past as memories which you 'hold onto' within you to influence who you are in this moment. Realize it's about WHO YOU ARE HERE IN THIS MOMENT that 'makes the difference' to your experience here, not what exists 'outside of you', it's about WHO YOU ARE HERE IN THIS MOMENT and if HERE IN THE MOMENT is fucked up - Realize that it's because of MEMORIES of the PAST which still exist within you, which is FUCKING with you - THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. So, to STOP THE PAST from influencing YOUR EXPRESSION HERE IN THE MOMENT - you have to release the past you hold onto within you.

So here - what you do it the following: Look at your past, all that you 'regret' / are ashamed of / which you 'feel bad about / sorry about' / guilty of / anger of and you apply self-forgiveness for it, because have a look, if you hold any emotional attachment to any 'memory' of what happened in the PAST, it DETERMINES your experience here - then you as who you are is not here, but you are enslaved in the PAST and thus will constantly and continuously experience the PAST and this RECREATE the past the whole time, always until you Realize: I am creating the past experiences the whole time because I'm still allowing it to exist within me. So, let's say for instance you have a memory of beating the living shit out of another guy - for no apparent reason but 'because you could' - though, you actually beat him up to show you how you are beating yourself up through anger / resentment / fury within you - you apply self-forgiveness: I forgive myself that I have allowed myself to beat up this guy and allowing me to exert my anger / fury and frustration out on him. I forgive myself that I haven't allowed myself to Realize that I was beating him up to show myself how I am beating myself up within me through accepting and allowing myself to define who I am as anger / fury / frustration. I forgive myself that I have forever held onto guilt for allowing and accepting me to do that to another as me. I no longer accept / allow guilt - as I Realize that I did that to understand to what extent I am beating myself up. If you must, you locate that person / phone him and say you're sorry, you facing yourself no matter what his reaction is, because it's about you facing you in that moment - you say I Realize that I was beating you up because I was beating myself up and no matter what your reaction is, I am saying sorry for allowing / accepting me to have done that to you as me. Or just apply self-forgiveness - until you're able to look at such a memory for instance and there is no reaction within you, then you say: DELETE - and you see the memory 'wisp away' and you move onto the next memory and so you release you from the past, so you as who you are can live / express you here in the moment.

So - you 'can't unmake' the decisions you've made in the past - but you can sure as hell make sure you don't make such decisions again, by releasing you from the past completely - Realize that you've made the decisions you've made based upon what you understood in that moment and based upon 'who you were' in that moment - so, release the past within you as I suggested - STOP CARRYING THE PAST with you - so that in every moment, you live you - and your 'decisions' are made as you as who you are - and NOT BASED ON THE PAST.

I feel so hurt, I want to be strong

Perspective:

Saying: 'I want to be strong', is saying you aren't strong, which is separation. Saying: I thought I was strong, is saying you have a perception / idea of what 'strength' is in your mind, instead of you living strength as you - the question of course is what is strength really? What strength is, is self-will and self-discipline - strength is who you are in every moment, not accepting / allowing you to participate in the mind, not accepting / allowing the thoughts, feelings and emotions to influence who you are, nor to accept / allow you to react to others when they 'express' themselves. Let me tell you a 'secret' - 'power is in strength' - the power presented in this world is not 'real power' in a living manifestation as who you really are. Actual POWER is strength in application, this you will realize as you apply and live this process of stopping participation in the mind, by not accepting / allowing you to be influenced by anything or anyone - in STOPPING in every moment the thoughts/feelings/emotions, applying self-will and self-discipline - this is where you live self-strength and understand what power really is.

Look within you and your world what is 'causing' this hurt within you, you will also see it's all exists as 'memories' / 'thoughts' which cause 'emotions / feelings' within you, even people within your world you 'react to', write it down / type it, so you see it in front of you. Don't try and fix it in your mind, up there, it's impossible to 'think about it' or try and figure it out with the very 'thing' that's causing it - write it down, everything that's causing the 'hurt' within you and stop it through applying self-forgiveness. If you struggle / get stuck with self-forgiveness - send me / e-mail me the 'points', then I'll assist with self-forgiveness.

I feel I am falling

Perspective:

I was once told: You cannot fall - I found this quite difficult to 'grasp', because the experience I had was that I was really falling - down into the most deepest darkest pit of turmoil, frustration, anger, sadness, shame, sorrow and it always got worse, and it was explained to me that falling is not really actually falling: 'Falling' is actually the experience of you revealing to you / showing you where you are not yet standing stable and constant within you - a specific 'point' that you are still accepting / allowing you to be influenced / controlled with or by. Then, when you 'stop the influence / control' and stand up, the 'falling experience' disappears and you Realize: I am here, I am still here! So, the 'points' that are 'causing the experience' of you still falling is that which you're still accepting / allowing to influence you, such as the past, your thoughts, emotions and feelings - the people in your world - so, you have to stop it, Realize that 'falling isn't bad', it’s just showing you where diligence in application is required. So, you stop it in every moment, not accepting / allowing the thoughts to run in your mind, the emotions/feelings to culminate - writing about the past / memories and applying self forgiveness to stop them.

I wish I were still a child

Perspective:

Let's look at a child: Innocence in self expression in the moment, unconditional in self expression as who they are in the moment. A child has no MIND, thoughts, feelings or emotions which they accept or allow to influence or control them, they're just here in the moment as who they are - open and vulnerable saying: This is who I am - I love me, I accept me, I enjoy me. Thus, this process is the 'return to innocence' of you as you as who you are - because it's still here as you, it is not lost - it's just that you have 'forgotten about you' and accepted and allowed the world and others to influence you / control you / direct you within you through accepting or allowing you to react towards them - then of course believing / thinking you are the mind within you of thoughts, feelings and emotions which is not who you are - so, now you have to 'walk this process' of 'returning to innocence' through self application of self forgiveness, and focusing on breath so you can 're-learn' how to trust you and how to unconditionally express you in every moment - with no interference of accepted / allowed reaction within you. To become as a child once more - no more mind influence.

Giving up on people:

Perspective:

Then give them up to themselves and realize that they are you. Remember your own process that brought you to your current awareness was a process, use the points that awakened you thus far to assist and realize that more similar points will happen in your process as well. Embrace this and see that pain always is a gift that bring our focus to introspection, if we do not see and hear, the cycle come again from a different angle, until we move, yet it is a journey - a journey to Realize what mess we create when we do not understand what we are creating and we miss the responsibility in our presence as creators responsible for creation and created.

Be gentle with yourself, only consciousness experience guilt and pain, till consciousness is no more.

How much time do we have to learn all of this before it's too late?

Perspective:

Understand that it’s not about ‘time’ – you either will you within this process to stand up and take self responsibility for you – or you’ll manifest necessary experiences within you and your world to in such a way force you to have the will to stand up and take self responsibility.

Thus, it is to focus here, remain here in breath as you, apply self honesty in every moment of breath to not accept/allow you to participate in the mind, apply self forgiveness for thoughts, feelings and emotions to release the hold of the mind systems within and as you, together with self corrective application – where you stop accepted and allowed participation in habits/reactions/behaviors of the mind and so you purify the nature of you – to no more be of the mind, but one and equal as life. So you establish self trust and self expression – together with self awareness, you becoming aware of you – not the ‘mind defined personality of you as who you think/believe’ yourself to be – ‘who you are here’ one and equal as life. Be aware of everything you touch within this world, for instance, the pillow you rest your head upon, the tile upon which you walk – as it is one and equal as you, aware as you and also within and as this process of becoming self aware as with you.

Process and the Future

Perspective:

You’re here as each one within this existence is here because we placed ourselves here – within and throughout eons’ of time in this existence.

This current manifested reality within which we exist – is what we have manifested and designed, including the current experience of all of humanity within this world – because of our accepted and allowed nature as what and who we existed as for eons of time. Now – this world, this existence within which we exist – is the manifestation of the nature as ‘who we are’ within ourselves as that which we have accepted and allowed ourselves to be one with and equal to: And if you have a look at the current status within and of this world – it is most certainly not acceptable.

In this: We have realized that each one is individually self responsible for the experience of not only ourselves, but all of humanity, all of existence as ourselves as we are here currently – if you have a look at the experience of all that exist within and as this existence: We did this – through our accepted and allowed nature we have defined as ‘who we are’.

How we did this is through accepted and allowed separation – we separated ourselves from ourselves as who we really are as life as all as one as equal, this separation manifested as the mind of thoughts, feelings and emotions, memories, perceptions, ideas and beliefs – and we, through the mind in separation and self dishonesty, manifested this existence in the image and likeness of who and what we have become within ourselves as the very nature of ourselves. Thus – the only way to stop what we have done unto ourselves and all others as ourselves which has manifested this world, this existence as is experienced currently – is to stop participation in the mind, through not accepting/allowing you to participate in thoughts, feelings and emotions of mind, to apply self honesty in every moment of breath to so establish self trust and self expression, and to focus on your breathing, remaining here as breath as you. Together with self-forgiveness and self corrective application as you participate in this world. Within this application – you assist and support you within this process of amalgamating you with and as life as who you really are.

The money system of this world will fall – this is inevitable, because money has become god of human beings – thus it must end. Realize that whatever you experience within your world, the experience of you within this world – is because of the nature you have defined you as being. Thus – I would suggest not to accept/allow money to be your god, from the perspective of it controlling you/influencing you as who you are here in every moment of breath – but to apply self forgiveness to release the ‘design of money’ within and of your mind, to in such a way ‘set you free’ from the control and enslavement to money – but to live here in every moment of breath as you.

I suggest to go through the video interviews and material on the Desteni website – there are many perspectives of how you’re able to assist and support you within and as your individual process.

What are some solutions to escaping a time loop?

Perspective:

Impossible to escape a time-loop, if your starting point would be to escape a time-loop, you’ll manifest a time-loop within a time-loop to realize that you’re not able to ‘escape it’. I would suggest to have a look within your world with regards to who within your world you ‘fear facing’, to whom are you ‘reacting’ to within you, to what are you reacting to within you within your world currently – I’d suggest to make a list and then face such ‘points’ within you and your world that you ‘fear facing’ and ‘still react’ towards through practical application – meaning to as you for instance stand before the being and ‘fear/anxiety’ come up to speak in self honesty according to what you experience within you, to push you through that fear and speak self honesty: This is ‘transcending a time-loop’ for instance – otherwise if you don’t a time-loop will ensue. Thus, to not ‘manifest time-loops’ – ‘push through fears/reactions’ within you in every moment as you participate with you and others within this world in practical application.

Communication in full expression of Self

Question

I have a belief, an understanding that I am bringing into the physical.

This is my belief:

I can come to a level of being that will allow for me to communicate a full expression of self. The same ability will also allow for me to have a full expression of others.

My desire to bring this into a reality stems from the thought that should I be able to share myself on a level that leaves no room for miss-understanding, and receive the same way, then too.... those that have been shared with will be able to do the same....

I believe this would allow us to live in peace and have an understanding of Love to such a degree as to usher in a new time for humanity. I feel this is the beginning of a new evolution.

Here are my questions:

What is the surest most affective way to bring a conscious belief like this into something my entire being accepts and understands?

Will this ability to affect my conscious beliefs allow for the growth needed to attain my desire?

If not, what then?

Have you seen this path I'm on?

It is also my understanding that others have seen this in a variety of ways and have chosen to pursue this as well.

Perspective:

What you are expressing is an understanding of equality and oneness-- what you are not sure about is how to do it practically -- in this I recommend you read Equality and self-expression -Structural Resonance from Veno, in fact, all that we present is placed as support to understand equality and oneness as a practical living model. I am placing my journey in understanding how to live practically as you have already felt the answer to be. Remember though that you must prove to yourself even when no-one agrees with you or respond in kind.

Awareness of the problems in this world

Question:

How was I able to ask the same questions back in ~2002-2004 that you are now answering? I had a very big problem during this time about the brain just being made of chemicals. I saw free will as an illusion, and sex as enslavement. This was before I 'fell' into the ignorance of the masses. Was there a program inside me that caused me to be this way, or was it a small amount of awareness that somehow snuck through?

Perspective:

There are many that have asked the questions, came to certain realizations with regards to the current experience of us all within this world, this existence – though have not discovered a solution that stand for all as one as equal, from the perspective of realizing the extent to which each one is responsible for the very reason the questions are asked and the realizations originate from with regards to the current situation in this world, on earth.

So, many understand or see the problem, but have no ‘solution’ – not realizing the solution must be self. Thus, from your perspective of the experience you’ve had – this makes the process for you ‘simpler’ from the perspective of common sense, because you’ve experienced and understood what is currently existent within this world, ‘how it works and what role you play within it’, now you have the solution that is you – to live the solution to the problem that is seen and understood within and as this world and our current experience within it.

Amalgamating the self as life

Question:

"Amalgamating the self as life" can only be done on Earth? Is this also possible in the dimensions?

Perspective=

Yip - only on earth is the amalgamation of self as life possible as the process of birthing life from the physical.

(Veno)

2008

Breaking the Cycle

Question:

You have such a vast amount of work on hand, I have less and less time ... is there a reference within it, that I can use to help us break this circle, that folk will be more willing to seek this honesty, without hitting the wall of "self"?

Perspective:

All the video interviews and material is specific in assisting and supporting each one within and as their individual process while existing within this world, therefore we suggest to go through all the video interviews and material – it’ll assist and support them much in giving perspective within and as their processes.

Thus, while participating in this world, it is to:

Remain here focused on breath as self. Apply self-honesty in every moment by not accepting and allowing self to participate in the mind, but stop the thoughts/feelings and emotions as they come up inside you. Apply self-forgiveness together with self-corrective application. Write your experiences within you and as you write apply self-forgiveness.

Inform them to just start – they have to do this for themselves, begin here in breath, together with self forgiveness and the writing is also very effective.

There is no ‘easy way out’, nor is there a ‘nice/gentle’ way out – because we have been all but gentle and nice to ourselves and others as ourselves within this existence.

People need something to get hold of

Question:

I hope I’ve sent you my feeling on this matter, which while I agree, to live in the here and now, is to put all else beside ... alas, folks do not think this way, they need something to "get hold of" rightly or wrong,

Perspective:

They will not find something to get hold of – because this would be separation – they must hold themselves within themselves here in breath in every moment.

This is a tough process for each – most certainly, but must be done and each must and will face themselves to that we will not ever again accept and allow what we have done unto ourselves and others as ourselves.

What is the Source?

Perspective:

You will have to see, realize and understand the ‘truth’ of you for you yourself as ‘who you are’. It cannot be given and it cannot be shown. This is only able to be done through you yourself assisting and supporting you in practical application here in every moment of breath.

We’ve realized that al of us are together within this existence – therefore, each and every single one of us is individually responsible for what currently exist as a manifested experience of ourselves as who and what we have accepted and allowed ourselves to be and become. Therefore – each one as to stand up and take self responsibility, to stop what we have accepted and allowed within self and this existence as self, just have a look at this world: There’s one huge problem here – and we’re it.

So, we’re assisting and supporting each being to stop participation in the mind, live self honesty, self trust and self expression here, focus on breath here, apply self forgiveness together with self corrective application: Have a look – each one is able to apply this within themselves equally – and so stand up and take self responsibility.

We’re not here to prove anything to anyone, you have to see, realize, understand the ‘truth’ of you as you - as the inevitability of each one standing up and taking self responsibility is certain – whether here on earth or the dimensions, and the dimensions are also within and as their individual process – each one equally – and so it will be on earth also.

So – see, realize, understand for you – through assisting and supporting you yourself here in every moment of breath – you’ve got nothing to lose but the mind, which is not who you really are.

What is this 'Life' that we are?

Perspective:

Life as you – is who you are – in other words, no-one is able to give it to you or show it to you – you have to realize, understand and see and live this for you as you.

We present the tools with which you’re able to assist and support you with, within your individual process – though, you have to live and apply the tools as you unconditionally and birth you as life from the physical within and as oneness and equality as you.

Therefore – I suggest go through the video interviews and material on the website, then participate on the Forum, so that you’re able to assist and support you and answer your question for yourself.

Will Mankind ever Hear?

Perspective:

Yes - this is unfortunately so, as you look at this world and just want to say to human beings, scream actually: WAKE UP!!! CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO YOURSELF, OTHERS AS YOU AND THIS EXISTENCE AS YOU? But, here with regards to what / who we have accepted and allowed ourselves to be and become, a process is required to literally 'peel of the layers' of self submergence in 'hiding from ourselves' because of fear and shame of what we have become - then in this realization stand up and take self responsibility.

So, there's most definitely quite a process ahead for humanity, for all of us - so within this, I suggest you remain focused here in breath as you, 'prepare the way before you as you for you' - and live and express and apply you in every moment of breath. So we may live the solution as ourselves and no longer accept / allow ourselves to participate in the mind as the system of the world - but express who we are in every moment of breath - in honoring ourselves as life.

There is much in this world that is unacceptable to say the least - yet, we're here, we did this - so we first focus on getting ourselves sorted out within ourselves, during our individual process - before we direct our world and others as ourselves. So - don't be hard on yourself - you first focus on you and don't accept / allow the current status of this world to influence / affect you.

(Jack)

The nature of man and suggestions to purity

Perspective:

We do urge all to, before they participate on the Forum to first go through all the material and video interviews to be able to assist and support themselves within this process effectively while participating - because human beings on the Forum have actually gone through the video interviews and material and are practically assisting and supporting themselves in stopping participation in the mind - to live here in every moment of breath in self expression: Establishing self honesty and self trust through self application and self forgiveness.

Thus - we present the current 'problem' we face as the 'nature of the mind' we have accepted and allowed ourselves to be and become, so that each one may realize that each one individually is the solution to the current accepted and allowed nature within this world / existence as what it is and has become as ourselves - and that we must stop within ourselves through stopping allowed / accepted participation in the mind - stand up and take self responsibility accordingly - thus, it's each individual human beings' individual process.

So, you're able to assist and support you effectively through going through the material and video interviews - then participating on the Forum if you have any questions. Practical self support assistance is also given within the video interviews and material from the perspective of how you're able to assist and support you to stop participation in the mind, to live you here in every moment of breath in establishing self trust, self honesty and self expression through self application and self forgiveness.

(Jack)

Universal Love and forgiveness

Perspective

The question you have to ask yourself is: Will you walk this process for you as life as all as one as equal whether it takes 350 million years to be done or three generations or one lifetime?

I understand your enthusiasm with regards to the process – though important to not have enthusiasm ‘create perceptual movement of self’, by not remaining here focused on what is actually really at ‘hand’ within and as this process, including with what is necessary to be done practically – it’s not as simple as ‘one two three’ with human beings in this world, and yes, there is something ‘missed’ which is that that which you read in the Structural Resonance documents – is all that human beings are – only that and that only – a mind consciousness system, and the nature of beings = self-dishonesty. And because of this, the process of each one takes seven years minimum to be completed – dependent on effectiveness, discipline and commitment to self as life as all as one as equal.

Therefore, I’d suggest you first take a moment for you – to go through the video interviews and material on the site – to really understand the current situation we are within. Because it’s not just about human beings themselves becoming self-aware, but also becoming self-aware as all that surrounds them within their world which they touch – thus, this process of seven years is for each individual human being to establish oneness and equality within and as themselves with and as all that exist, in every moment of touch realizing that that which is being touched is self and there exist no mind perception/idea/belief of anything or anyone that exist within this existence as this world currently.

Understand that this process is already done from the perspective that oneness and equality as life is directing all of existence as one, yet we are able to accelerate this process by standing as the manifestation of life as life here in every moment of breath, absolute in practical application as the living expression of life as life as we participate in this world within and as self-awareness, directing others as self to realize who they are as life as all as one as equal.

Either you direct you in assisting and supporting self to stand here as life as the manifested expression of life as life and walk unconditionally no matter what in every moment of breath – or life as who you really are will direct you – which is a process of much suffering, pain and hardship for you to realize that you have to and must stand up and take self-responsibility.

Thus – either you be your own force and will you to apply you effectively here in every moment of breath to stand up and take self-responsibility for all life as self – or life as you will force you to stand up and take self-responsibility through certain specific necessary experiences: This is the process that is here, that is done – one and equal for each and all.

Have a look at ‘co-creation’:

Understand that we have been co-creating for eons of time; co-creation is the reason why we’re where we are in this moment within this world currently. We have been ‘co-creating’ since the very beginning of our existence which manifested this very creation as is, because we all participated in creating it = Co-creation.

Therefore = co-creation is not the solution, as co-creation is of separation. Therefore = each and every single one of is responsible for all and everything that exists within and as and of this creation – because we created it within and as our participation of all of existence through co-creation.

Create sounds like cremate – the more we continue to create, the more we destroy, the example of ‘creating’ is right here within and as this world.

Have a look at where we are now in ‘creation’ which we ‘co-created’ together as one = all and everything of ourselves exist within and as separation, we are in separation of ourselves as life, in separation of this very ‘creation’ we ‘created’ through ‘co-creation’, we are separate from each other = all and everything exists within and as separation because the very act of ‘creating’ is separation in itself.

And we’ve constantly continuously been lost within the cycle of ‘creating’ – not realizing that ‘creating’ through ‘co-creation’ is the very problem we face within this existence, this world.

Because have a look at your current ‘starting point’ with regards to your ‘project’:

First point of separation: The principle of ‘co-creation’ – brining lots of beings together with ‘co-creation’ for a ‘goal’ / ‘attainment’ / ‘reason’ as ‘oneness and equality’ / ‘universal love and peace’ which is your second point of separation. Where are the beings themselves as ‘who they are’ in all this, the beings individually?

You have your ‘starting point’ as ‘co-creation’ which is separation, for a goal / purpose to be ‘reached’ which is separate from self – and you’re not taking into consideration that current placement/status within which the beings you’re approaching or who is approaching you, not taking into consideration their very nature as ‘who they are’ currently as a mind consciousness system of self dishonesty.

And what you’re establishing now, the principle you are establishing this ‘project’ upon as the starting point thereof – is exactly the same way we started this existence, this ‘creation’ within which we experience ourselves. Various different expressions as being coming together to ‘create’ through ‘co-creation’ for a reason/purpose/goal separate from self = which manifested this ‘creation’ of separation within which we experience ourselves.

See, if your starting point is separation, all and everything you do will be of separation.

So, what you’re actually supporting within this project is not oneness and equality as life = but the very nature of separation within and of human beings which has manifested this ‘creation’ within which we experience ourselves currently. So, you’ll actually be supporting the very nature of this world, this ‘creation’ as it exist in this moment here of separation.

Therefore, ‘co-creation’ or any means or form of ‘creating’ is not the solution, nor human beings coming together for ‘co-creating’ (which is separation’) for a purpose/reason separate from self (which is separation). This project you are looking at – is exactly what we have done for eons of time creating/cremating ourselves and all that exists within and as this existence – just giving it a different ‘face/name’.

Again, what is being ‘missed’ is the individual human being as ‘who they are’ – because it’s not about ‘co-creating’, ‘creating’ or even doing this process for ‘oneness and equality’ / ‘life’ – you have to do it for YOU AS Life as all as one as equal – here is the ‘difference’ in starting point.

Because if you’re doing this process for a goal/purpose/reason outside of you, for instance doing it FOR oneness and equality / life FOR a solution to this world/human beings within a starting point of co-creation, bringing many beings together without effectively realising that it is the very nature of the being as ‘who they are’ that is the ‘problem’ = this is separation.

Applying this process for YOU AS life as all as one as equal in realising that what is necessary to be done is to STOP ALL CREATION, stop that which creates which is the human being as the mind consciousness system entirely, in stopping - to stand up AS life as all as one as equal here and assist and support others to transform and purify the nature of themselves to life as all as one as equal so we may stand here, each one, as life as all as one as equal as the nature of ‘who we are’ = this is oneness and equality in application = and if a being refuse to hear, a being still lost in the mind continuing to support this ‘creation’ of separation and dishonesty – you ‘send them away to their individual process’ – this is what we do when we ban beings from the website as mind’s refusing to take self responsibility, stand up and assist and support self to amalgamate with life as all as one as equal. Why? Because we know that life as who this being really is will accordingly direct this being within and as their individual process through any and all means for them to ‘wake up’ – because they themselves decided they’re not ready to will themselves and force themselves to stop participation in the mind and stop supporting this ‘creation’ of the mind as the experience of all within and as this world.

I would suggest approaching your project in the following way:

Transform your ‘website’ into your individual process, your individual experience within and as your process – The process of amalgamating self as life. ‘Name’ the website: Oneness and equality as Life and then underneath have it read: The process of amalgamating self as life. Then you’re able to have an introduction section within which you explain what you’ve discovered and that you’ll be documenting your process here on the site for each one participating to view in assisting and supporting themselves within and as their individual process.

Why do it this way: Realize that in you standing up for you, you applying you in this process to stand here as the manifested expression of you as life as all as one as equal – within and as the principle of oneness and equality = you are assisting and supporting all other human beings as you – then your starting point within your website/project is oneness and equality.

Then you make the statement of you, for instance: I am in the process of amalgamating me as life as all as one as equal as ‘who I am’ as who each really is – to stop all and everything I have participated in within this current ‘creation’ as the current situation within which this world is in, in this, I am standing up and taking self-responsibility for me.

With this website here, I am documenting my process – and I ‘invite’ those who self honestly within them realize that we must individually stand up and take self-responsibility for what we have accepted and allowed to exist within this world to participate in this process of amalgamating self as life as all as one as equal. Because this world cannot continue as is – we have to stand up.

In documenting my process here, it’ll assist and support you also, because in the principle of oneness and equality – I am you and you are me, and so, in assisting and supporting ourselves, we assist and support others as ourselves – to no more accept and allow anything less than who we really are.

This is but an example, I suggest.

And with all the other beings coming and participating with you – it’ll assist and support you much within your individual process also, much so!

Because in applying this process in this way: You are applying you for you as life as all as one as equal – then your starting point is oneness and equality as you, and this your entire ‘website’ / ‘projects’ foundation will be oneness and equality as beings participate in assisting and supporting themselves to amalgamate self as life.

It’s about the beings, ‘who they are’ – just as it is about you, as ‘who you are’ – as each one individually stand up and take self-responsibility – so we will stop this creation of mind in separation as, within and what we exist and experience ourselves in this moment in this world and as this world = which must STOP. It’ll only stop if each one stop within themselves – and this stopping is a process of seven years for each one max.

So, while you’re within your process – you’ll assist and support you much, through assisting and supporting others as you – you will realize much, you will understand much.

Then, as beings start participating with you, becoming ‘comfortable’ within and as their individual processes, you suggest to them to start their own site within which they share their experiences and progress within and as their individual processes – and so you ‘expand’ being’s application within and as their process – so you establish self-trust and self-honesty together with self-expression as you, and so with all others participating.

And beings not ‘willing’ to share their experiences openly are actually self-dishonest and thus cannot be trusted with life – because in sharing your experiences openly to all, here is application of self-honesty and transcendence, knowing/realizing this is your individual process within and as which you’re assisting and supporting yourself. And so you’re able to determine who’s self-honest and who’s self-dishonest as beings participate together with you in their processes– those who open up their own site and share their experience of their process of amalgamating self as life is self-honest here – those who don’t and have excuses/justifications not to = self-dishonest.

Have a look at what I suggested, and let me know.

Quote:

“Regarding visiting the portal, i am open for anything, just want to work on myself on self-forgiveness, self-trust and breathing awareness to get ready for that. I want to work on that self-forgiveness list listed at the main page of your site from Veno. Is this the complete list?”

With regards to the self-forgiveness lists on the Forum – no, it isn’t the complete list. It’s merely a foundation from where to start – realize that self-forgiveness is an ongoing process, applied in every moment of breath, thus - when a being says: I have applied self-forgiveness and now I am done – self dishonesty.

Quote:

“Have you investigated the nature of the unmanifest infinite source?”

There exist no such ‘source’ – as ‘manifest/unmanifest’ source would be separation within and as polarity. All and everything is manifested in its very nature = equal and one.

Quote:

“This is the only way the petrol pump talking would be real to me. How do you explain matter being conscious of itself and how do the portal view this?”

Everything that exists is aware – as it is us, as we ‘created’ this ‘creation’ as ourselves within and as separation – now, we’re in the process of ‘bringing humpty dumpty back together again’ – in realising that we’ve separated ourselves from ourselves through ‘creating’ / ‘creation’ – now it is to become one and equal within and as ourselves as all and everything that exists as ourselves to once again ‘merge ourselves’ with ourselves and amalgamate as life as all as one as equal – to manifest who we really are here as all as one as equal as life.

Therefore, everything and all is aware as us – now it’s the process of becoming self aware as life as all as one as equal – this entails all and everything that exists as ourselves as all and everything must stand within and as oneness and equality as life.

Feedback after this post:

Perfect.

It sounds like my real true self talking to me in all self-honesty.

No problem about how long it will take for me to birth me as all as one as equal as life. That is what i had been searching for and had been waiting for since i was a child , to find me as all life again.

I have tried many paths but there is something missing and i think this is what's missing, the true data about who i am as separate and who i am as all of life and the process to do it where others living have done and can be asked about how they did it.

This is the only truth there is, and this is what i am looking for all my life. What will get in between me and myself? Just the mind consciousness systems. Well, all my life i had been deceiving myself, i already experienced that. It caused a lot of pain. That path is infinite pain. I know i had been there.

This path of finding me again and birthing me again as all as one as life , can be painful only because of the programmed information on what i am supposed to be and getting away from that "supposed" beingness . I can tolerate that pain. It’s like growing pains. But the bliss of finding me again, the wait in between is more painful. The state where i will feel me as equal as one as all expression of life in its totality, that is happiness. That contentment as me as who i really am.

In my meditation before, i felt i have touched that reality somehow and i cannot forget the joy and contentment i felt then. The thing is i feel there is more to experience to being me as all life....that is where my contentment will be....there is no doubt about that. I have within me a knowingness of how that is.

The process is there to do , so....i am ready. There is no other choice! The other choice, i already had chosen before and it was painful.

This idea of a website where i will share with everyone how i birth me, this is the one i had been looking for from Masters i had studied with.

Ananda Murti, L Ron Hubbard, Khalki, Buddha, Jesus, all had their ideologies but there was no account of what they did daily to birth them to who they really are (well maybe they didn't, that's why they did not share or maybe if they did the truth will be known to people and they will be vulnerable to criticism). That's what i actually am looking for so i can birth me. It's ironic that the answer to what i am looking for is within me and i will have to do it in this lifetime.

What i will do now is to transition the network for universal love to my individual process of birthing me like a reality show. That's original. Very honest. That sounds fun and exciting. That sounds like me.

This is what my plan is: 1.I will complete my list of groups co-creating for Universal Love co-creation ( from the separation point of view). 2. I will announce all statistics and my realization.... That the reason why we have not changed this world is because we have not birth us individually.....etc. (will let you know soon what exactly i did to transition) 3.Then, i will tell them that my decision is for us to stand up and birth ourselves individually and announce my website for my daily birthing process ...with your suggested name and everything, just because what you said was exactly like what i will say, fascinating. Is that what happens when you stand as one as all...? 4. I will ask all the members to stand up and birth themselves and challenge each one who wants to stand up and birth themself. Anyone serious about making a difference in this world? "Let's birth us first, let's stand up and do it" , and then i will ask them to do their own account of their daily self-birthing process, if not blogger.com, maybe twitter.com. Then i will make myself available to help them as me....

Will talk to you soon about how i did the transition, the result etc.

Next week i will drop the bomb to them, let's see who will take the challenge?

Note: today, when i logged into the chat room, i saw 3 people there as i share my experiences for today to them, that's cool.

Thanks for Being.

Perspective on this post:

Just one point I’d suggest to have a look at:

for Universal Love to happen, people will have to be self-honest and will have to stand for life in its totality.

For oneness and equality as life to manifest as the expression of ‘who we are’, each one will have to be self-honest and will have to stand for life as life as all as one as equal.

The reason I’d suggest to for a moment, not focus on ‘love’ is because human beings’ perceptions/ideas within their mind-designed nature is so extensively abused with regards to the word ‘love’ that a perception will be derived of the word ‘love’ in the contents you’re using it, which will influence the being’s individual starting point as themselves. But for each one to practically apply and live self love in every moment of breath would be to not accept/allow anything less from self as ‘who I am’ – not accepting/allowing the mind to influence/control self in any moment.

Also to take into consideration not to exist within and as any expectation / feeling of how ‘one and equal as life as you as the manifested expression of who you are might/may be’.

Remain here in breath within and as your process and apply and express you accordingly – because ‘who you are is here’, must just be realized as you within and as the manifested expression of you here that stand infinitely.

Other than that = sounds cool.

Transcendence

Question

Transcendence? How do I awaken/become the Being that fuels the Construct? How do I break away from the universe of Anu? How do I do it NOW?

Perspective

A process-- cannot do it too fast as you will leave and not transcend. Start with forgiveness, that was all I could find brings peace for a moment.

Realize that you are all, even every atom is you equal and one. Look at one atom in the next in breath -where was it before? What is your relationship with this atom? Are you always in one breath aware on an individual basis with every Atom, every Nano particle as one or do you take them as you for granted? Prove this to yourself constantly and yes - they do communicate.

Take the journey of the atom, through all the breaths it participate in - all the conversations it had -all the other atoms it met - all the plants it moved through.

Our lives are something like that - yet we take much for granted because we trust the mind.

First yourself as everything, this relationship must be restored as all as one -proven to yourself.

Otherwise -

frustration